[Skate] The Uni-Koeln awards 2016

[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Hi,
Here are my nominations for this year. Please feel free to post yours if you disagree with me. All nominations that are entered and seconded by April 15 will enter the poll. Categories without seconded counter-nominations by then will be regarded as settled.


Best skater from AUSTRALIA


Daniel Greig


Best skater from AUSTRIA


Vanessa Bittner


Best skater from BELARUS


Vitalij Mikhajlov


Best skater from BELGIUM


Bart Swings


Best skater from BRAZIL


Victor Takeiji Minakawa


Best skater from CANADA


Ted-Jan Bloemen


Best skater from CHILE


Ricardo Verdugo


Best skater from CHINA


Hong Zhang


Best skater from COLOMBIA


Pedro Causil


Best skater from CROATIA


Diana Blagdan


Best skater from CZECH REPUBLIC


Martina Sábliková


Best skater from DENMARK


Viktor Hald Thorup


Best skater from ENGLAND


Cornelius Kersten


Best skater from ESTONIA


Marten Liiv


Best skater from FINLAND


Mika Poutala


Best skater from FRANCE


Alexis Contin


Best skater from GEORGIA


Nika Gabaidze


Best skater from GERMANY


Nico Ihle


Best skater from HUNGARY


Konrád Nagy


Best skater from INDIA


Stephen Paul Kilari


Best skater from ISRAEL


Vladislav Bykanov


Best skater from ITALY


Andrea Giovannini


Best skater from JAPAN


Misaki Oshigiri


Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN


Roman Kretsj


Best skater from LATVIA


Haralds Silovs


Best skater from MEXICO


Tomás Hernández


Best skater from MONGOLIA


Yalalt Zorigtbaatar


Best skater from NETHERLANDS


Sven Kramer


Best skater from NEW ZEALAND


Peter Michael


Best skater from NORWAY


Sverre Lunde Pedersen


Best skater from POLAND


Artur Waś


Best skater from PORTUGAL


Filipe André Felisberto


Best skater from ROMANIA


Andrei Parnică


Best skater from RUSSIA


Denis Juskov


Best skater from SCOTLAND


Scott Anderson


Best skater from SLOVAKIA


Kristian Terebesi


Best skater from SOUTH KOREA


Seung-Hoon Lee


Best skater from SPAIN


Iñigo Vidondo


Best skater from SWEDEN


David Andersson


Best skater from SWITZERLAND


Livio Wenger


Best skater from TAIWAN


Ching-Yang Sung


Best skater from THAILAND


Bertha Natalie Hognestad


Best skater from UKRAINE


Galina Popova


Best skater from USA


Brittany Bowe


Best female 500 m skater


Sang-Hwa Lee


Best female 1000 m skater


Brittany Bowe


Best female 1500 m skater


Jorien ter Mors


Best female 3000 m skater


Martina Sábliková


Best female 5000 m skater


Martina Sábliková


Best female 10000 m skater


Imke Vormeer


Best female sprinter


Brittany Bowe


Best female allrounder


Martina Sábliková


Best female mass start skater


Irene Schouten


Best male 500 m skater


void – You can nominate someone if you want to.


Best male 1000 m skater


Kjeld Nuis


Best male 1500 m skater


Denis Juskov


Best male 3000 m skater


Sverre Lunde Pedersen


Best male 5000 m skater


Sven Kramer


Best male 10000 m skater


Ted-Jan Bloemen


Best male sprinter


Kjeld Nuis


Best male allrounder


Sven Kramer


Best male mass-start skater


Seung-Hoon Lee


Best female junior


Ji-Woo Park


Best male junior


Marcel Bosker


Best coach


Petr Novák


Best team


Czech national team


Break-through of the year


Ted-Jan Bloemen


Come-back of the year


Jan Blokhuijsen


Biggest surprise


12.36,30


Most disappointing skater of the year


Ida Njåtun


Unluckiest skater


Koen Verweij


Wednesday skater of the year


Heather Richardson-Bergsma


Most feared farewell


The European allround Championship


Most desired comeback


Håvard BÞkko


Best event


World Cup Salt Lake City


Most exciting duel


Swings-Michael 5000 m WSD Kolomna


Best race (Oscar-style)


Sven Kramer 6.10,31


Best venue


Hol stadion


Biggest shame/scandal


The meldonium saga


And finally: Best Skater


Sven Kramer


Hilsen Lars Finsen

[robert koorneef [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Azerbaijan Rza Gazimov


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Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Hi,
Here are my nominations for this year. Please feel free to post yours if you disagree with me. All nominations that are entered and seconded by April 15 will enter the poll. Categories without seconded counter-nominations by then will be regarded as settled.
Best skater from AUSTRALIA
Daniel Greig
Best skater from AUSTRIA
Vanessa Bittner
Best skater from BELARUS
Vitalij Mikhajlov
Best skater from BELGIUM
Bart Swings
Best skater from BRAZIL
Victor Takeiji Minakawa
Best skater from CANADA
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Best skater from CHILE
Ricardo Verdugo
Best skater from CHINA
Hong Zhang
Best skater from COLOMBIA
Pedro Causil
Best skater from CROATIA
Diana Blagdan
Best skater from CZECH REPUBLIC
Martina Sábliková
Best skater from DENMARK
Viktor Hald Thorup
Best skater from ENGLAND
Cornelius Kersten
Best skater from ESTONIA
Marten Liiv
Best skater from FINLAND
Mika Poutala
Best skater from FRANCE
Alexis Contin
Best skater from GEORGIA
Nika Gabaidze
Best skater from GERMANY
Nico Ihle
Best skater from HUNGARY
Konrád Nagy
Best skater from INDIA
Stephen Paul Kilari
Best skater from ISRAEL
Vladislav Bykanov
Best skater from ITALY
Andrea Giovannini
Best skater from JAPAN
Misaki Oshigiri
Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN
Roman Kretsj
Best skater from LATVIA
Haralds Silovs
Best skater from MEXICO
Tomás Hernández
Best skater from MONGOLIA
Yalalt Zorigtbaatar
Best skater from NETHERLANDS
Sven Kramer
Best skater from NEW ZEALAND
Peter Michael
Best skater from NORWAY
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best skater from POLAND
Artur Waś
Best skater from PORTUGAL
Filipe André Felisberto
Best skater from ROMANIA
Andrei Parnică
Best skater from RUSSIA
Denis Juskov
Best skater from SCOTLAND
Scott Anderson
Best skater from SLOVAKIA
Kristian Terebesi
Best skater from SOUTH KOREA
Seung-Hoon Lee
Best skater from SPAIN
Iñigo Vidondo
Best skater from SWEDEN
David Andersson
Best skater from SWITZERLAND
Livio Wenger
Best skater from TAIWAN
Ching-Yang Sung
Best skater from THAILAND
Bertha Natalie Hognestad
Best skater from UKRAINE
Galina Popova
Best skater from USA
Brittany Bowe
Best female 500 m skater
Sang-Hwa Lee
Best female 1000 m skater
Brittany Bowe
Best female 1500 m skater
Jorien ter Mors
Best female 3000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
Best female 5000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
Best female 10000 m skater
Imke Vormeer
Best female sprinter
Brittany Bowe
Best female allrounder
Martina Sábliková
Best female mass start skater
Irene Schouten
Best male 500 m skater
void – You can nominate someone if you want to.
Best male 1000 m skater
Kjeld Nuis
Best male 1500 m skater
Denis Juskov
Best male 3000 m skater
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best male 5000 m skater
Sven Kramer
Best male 10000 m skater
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Best male sprinter
Kjeld Nuis
Best male allrounder
Sven Kramer
Best male mass-start skater
Seung-Hoon Lee
Best female junior
Ji-Woo Park
Best male junior
Marcel Bosker
Best coach
Petr Novák
Best team
Czech national team
Break-through of the year
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Come-back of the year
Jan Blokhuijsen
Biggest surprise
12.36,30
Most disappointing skater of the year
Ida Njåtun
Unluckiest skater
Koen Verweij
Wednesday skater of the year
Heather Richardson-Bergsma
Most feared farewell
The European allround Championship
Most desired comeback
Håvard BÞkko
Best event
World Cup Salt Lake City
Most exciting duel
Swings-Michael 5000 m WSD Kolomna
Best race (Oscar-style)
Sven Kramer 6.10,31
Best venue
Hol stadion
Biggest shame/scandal
The meldonium saga
And finally: Best Skater
Sven Kramer
Hilsen Lars Finsen

[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Post by robert koorneef ***@me.com [Speed_skating]
Azerbaijan Rza Gazimov

Goodness me, he does indeed appear as AZE in the lists, from the same meet in Minsk where the Georgians appear, too. What was going on there?

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
Alt om skÞyter:
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml

['Gerrit Stevens' [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Best skater from AUSTRALIA

Daniel Greig

Best skater from AUSTRIA

Vanessa Bittner

Best skater from BELARUS

Vitalij Mikhajlov

Best skater from BELGIUM

Bart Swings

Best skater from BRAZIL

??

Best skater from CANADA

Ted-Jan Bloemen

Best skater from CHILE

??

Best skater from CHINA

Hong Zhang

Best skater from COLOMBIA

Pedro Causil

Best skater from CROATIA

??

Best skater from CZECH REPUBLIC

Martina Sábliková

Best skater from DENMARK

Viktor Hald Thorup

Best skater from ENGLAND

Elise Christie

Best skater from ESTONIA

Marten Liiv

Best skater from FINLAND

Mika Poutala

Best skater from FRANCE

Alexis Contin

Best skater from GEORGIA

??

Best skater from GERMANY

Nico Ihle

Best skater from HUNGARY

Konrád Nagy

Best skater from INDIA

???

Best skater from ISRAEL

??

Best skater from ITALY

Francesca Lollobrigida

Best skater from JAPAN

Miho Takagi

Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN

Roman Kretsj

Best skater from LATVIA

Haralds Silovs

Best skater from MEXICO

??

Best skater from MONGOLIA

??

Best skater from NETHERLANDS

Jorien ter Mors

Best skater from NEW ZEALAND

Peter Michael

Best skater from NORWAY

Sverre Lunde Pedersen

Best skater from POLAND

Artur Waś

Best skater from PORTUGAL

??

Best skater from ROMANIA

??

Best skater from RUSSIA

Denis Juskov

Best skater from SCOTLAND

Elise Christie

Best skater from SOUTH KOREA

Sang-Hwa Lee

Best skater from SPAIN

Iñigo Vidondo

Best skater from SWEDEN

David Andersson

Best skater from SWITZERLAND

Livio Wenger

Best skater from TAIWAN

??

Best skater from THAILAND

??

Best skater from UKRAINE

??

Best skater from USA

Brittany Bowe

Best female 500 m skater

Sang-Hwa Lee

Best female 1000 m skater

Jorien ter Mors

Best female 1500 m skater

Jorien ter Mors

Best female 3000 m skater

Martina Sábliková

Best female 5000 m skater

Martina Sábliková

Best female 10000 m skater

Imke Vormeer

Best female sprinter

Brittany Bowe

Best female allrounder

Martina Sablikova (best allround performance: Jorien ter Mors, fastest last lap on 1500)

Best female mass start skater

Irene Schouten

Best male 500 m skater

PK

Best male 1000 m skater

Kjeld Nuis

Best male 1500 m skater

Denis Juskov

Best male 3000 m skater

Sverre Lunde Pedersen

Best male 5000 m skater

Sven Kramer

Best male 10000 m skater

Ted-Jan Bloemen

Best male sprinter

Kjeld Nuis

Best male allrounder

Sven Kramer

Best male mass-start skater

Ingmar Berga

Best female junior

Ji-Woo Park

Best male junior

Marcel Bosker

Best coach

Petr Novák

Best team

Czech national team

Break-through of the year

Daidai Ntab

Come-back of the year

Jorien ter Mors

Biggest surprise

12.36,30

Most disappointing skater of the year

Denis Yuskov/Jorrit Bergsma

Unluckiest skater

Koen Verweij/Lotte van Beek/Stephanie Beckert

Wednesday skater of the year

Joey Mantia

Most feared farewell

The European allround Championship

Most desired comeback

Håvard BÞkko

Best event

World Championship Single Distances Kolomna

Most exciting duel

Swings-Michael 5000 m WSD Kolomna
Sablikova-WÃŒst Berlin

Best race (Oscar-style)

TJ Flowers 12.36,30

Best venue

Berlin

Biggest shame/scandal

The WC Stavanger qualifier for WCH.
The KNSB failing to enter a 4th participant in this qualifier

And finally: Best Skater

Jorien ter Mors

Gerrit Jan Stevens

[[e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

hello,

who else considers the qualification system for the world championships a scandal? i consider it much better then the previous one.

also what are the stories behind marcel bosker, stephanie beckert and the czech team as the best team??
JF

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Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from AUSTRALIA
Daniel Greig
Best skater from AUSTRIA
Vanessa Bittner
Best skater from BELARUS
Vitalij Mikhajlov
Best skater from BELGIUM
Bart Swings
Best skater from BRAZIL
??
Best skater from CANADA
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Best skater from CHILE
??
Best skater from CHINA
Hong Zhang
Best skater from COLOMBIA
Pedro Causil
Best skater from CROATIA
??
Best skater from CZECH REPUBLIC
Martina Sábliková
Best skater from DENMARK
Viktor Hald Thorup
Best skater from ENGLAND
Elise Christie
Best skater from ESTONIA
Marten Liiv
Best skater from FINLAND
Mika Poutala
Best skater from FRANCE
Alexis Contin
Best skater from GEORGIA
??
Best skater from GERMANY
Nico Ihle
Best skater from HUNGARY
Konrád Nagy
Best skater from INDIA
???
Best skater from ISRAEL
??
Best skater from ITALY
Francesca Lollobrigida
Best skater from JAPAN
Miho Takagi
Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN
Roman Kretsj
Best skater from LATVIA
Haralds Silovs
Best skater from MEXICO
??
Best skater from MONGOLIA
??
Best skater from NETHERLANDS
Jorien ter Mors
Best skater from NEW ZEALAND
Peter Michael
Best skater from NORWAY
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best skater from POLAND
Artur Waś
Best skater from PORTUGAL
??
Best skater from ROMANIA
??
Best skater from RUSSIA
Denis Juskov
Best skater from SCOTLAND
Elise Christie
Best skater from SOUTH KOREA
Sang-Hwa Lee
Best skater from SPAIN
Iñigo Vidondo
Best skater from SWEDEN
David Andersson
Best skater from SWITZERLAND
Livio Wenger
Best skater from TAIWAN
??
Best skater from THAILAND
??
Best skater from UKRAINE
??
Best skater from USA
Brittany Bowe
Best female 500 m skater
Sang-Hwa Lee
Best female 1000 m skater
Jorien ter Mors
Best female 1500 m skater
Jorien ter Mors
Best female 3000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
Best female 5000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
Best female 10000 m skater
Imke Vormeer
Best female sprinter
Brittany Bowe
Best female allrounder
Martina Sablikova (best allround performance: Jorien ter Mors, fastest last lap on 1500)
Best female mass start skater
Irene Schouten
Best male 500 m skater
PK
Best male 1000 m skater
Kjeld Nuis
Best male 1500 m skater
Denis Juskov
Best male 3000 m skater
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best male 5000 m skater
Sven Kramer
Best male 10000 m skater
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Best male sprinter
Kjeld Nuis
Best male allrounder
Sven Kramer
Best male mass-start skater
Ingmar Berga
Best female junior
Ji-Woo Park
Best male junior
Marcel Bosker
Best coach
Petr Novák
Best team
Czech national team
Break-through of the year
Daidai Ntab
Come-back of the year
Jorien ter Mors
Biggest surprise
12.36,30
Most disappointing skater of the year
Denis Yuskov/Jorrit Bergsma
Unluckiest skater
Koen Verweij/Lotte van Beek/Stephanie Beckert
Wednesday skater of the year
Joey Mantia
Most feared farewell
The European allround Championship
Most desired comeback
Håvard BÞkko
Best event
World Championship Single Distances Kolomna
Most exciting duel
Swings-Michael 5000 m WSD Kolomna
Sablikova-WÃŒst Berlin
Best race (Oscar-style)
TJ Flowers 12.36,30
Best venue
Berlin
Biggest shame/scandal
The WC Stavanger qualifier for WCH.
The KNSB failing to enter a 4th participant in this qualifier
And finally: Best Skater
Jorien ter Mors
Gerrit Jan Stevens

[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
who else considers the qualification system for the world championships a scandal? i consider it much better then the previous one.

I partially agree, in that I consider it somewhat better than the previous one. It has some advantages: a) It is part of a popular event that is considered a real event in the places where it has been arranged (only in Norway so far). (Obviously it does not have this advantage over the European Championship.) b) All continents have equal chances of qualifying, there being no quotas carried over from last season. c) There is more than one way to qualify, so that if you miss one, you can catch up with another. d) The procedure is interesting for nerds like me. e) There are other competitions going on at the same time, to give non-nerds a chance for being entertained, too. f) It is new and therefore exciting. And then there are some disadvantages. i) Participants from other continents have a long way to travel, but this is alleviated by the event being part of the World Cup, which they will travel to anyway. ii) The procedure is complicated. iii) People who are qualified already have no interest in participating. iv) It is part of a regular World Cup event, which will take attention away from the qualifying event and will make it difficult for some nations to enter sufficient numbers of candidates due to the distance quotas. v) Only two of the allround distances are involved, removing at least one of the chances to skate a 10000 m during the season (at least for the men). vi) It is new and therefore a breach of tradition.

To me the advantages outweigh the disadvantages somewhat.

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
also what are the stories behind marcel bosker, stephanie beckert and the czech team as the best team??

Bosker had the best results in the junior World Cup as far as I can see. Please nominate another candidate if you have one. The same applies to the Czech team, it’s only my suggestion. But I think the way they perform against all odds, progressing as a team, is impressive.

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
Alt om skÞyter:
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml

[[e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

to me the explanation of the choices is more interesting then the choices themselves :)

to me disadvantage v is not quite relevant since it doesnt remove a 10 k from the previuos calendar :)

i would also say that it's good that only the middle distances of the allround combination are skated in the qualification competition. if the full program was skated, then it would kinda be a championship before the championship.

to me the real scandal about the actual qualification system is that some countries don't try to qualify he maximum skaters by making some of them skate the 2 distances required, focusing on the single distances world cup .

Canada had only 2 male sprinters skating the required 2 races to qualify for the world sprint championships. and also we qualified 3 ladies and 2 men for the allround championships but sent only one of each gender, apparently for budget reasons :(

for the best junior I would gladly nominate fellow canadian Ben Donnelly or korean Min-Seok Kik,for being close second as a B2 junior. I do not personnaly follow junior world cups but i would pick the world junior champion over the junior world cup best skater :) especially when all the juniors dont skate the junior world cups.

JF

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Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
who else considers the qualification system for the world championships a scandal? i consider it much better then the previous one.

I partially agree, in that I consider it somewhat better than the previous one. It has some advantages: a) It is part of a popular event that is considered a real event in the places where it has been arranged (only in Norway so far). (Obviously it does not have this advantage over the European Championship.) b) All continents have equal chances of qualifying, there being no quotas carried over from last season. c) There is more than one way to qualify, so that if you miss one, you can catch up with another. d) The procedure is interesting for nerds like me. e) There are other competitions going on at the same time, to give non-nerds a chance for being entertained, too. f) It is new and therefore exciting. And then there are some disadvantages. i) Participants from other continents have a long way to travel, but this is alleviated by the event being part of the World Cup, which they will travel to anyway. ii) The procedure is complicated. iii) People who are qualified already have no interest in participating. iv) It is part of a regular World Cup event, which will take attention away from the qualifying event and will make it difficult for some nations to enter sufficient numbers of candidates due to the distance quotas. v) Only two of the allround distances are involved, removing at least one of the chances to skate a 10000 m during the season (at least for the men). vi) It is new and therefore a breach of tradition.
To me the advantages outweigh the disadvantages somewhat.

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
also what are the stories behind marcel bosker, stephanie beckert and the czech team as the best team??

Bosker had the best results in the junior World Cup as far as I can see. Please nominate another candidate if you have one. The same applies to the Czech team, it’s only my suggestion. But I think the way they perform against all odds, progressing as a team, is impressive.
hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml
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Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
to me the explanation of the choices is more interesting then the choices themselves :)

Ok, good. Where did you get Stephanie Beckert from, by the way?

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
to me disadvantage v is not quite relevant since it doesnt remove a 10 k from the previuos calendar :)

No not from last year’s calendar, because the same system was in force then. But before that we had the qualifier events with full allround programmes.

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
i would also say that it's good that only the middle distances of the allround combination are skated in the qualification competition. if the full program was skated, then it would kinda be a championship before the championship.

Not exactly. Only the championship is the championship. Is the European Championship a championship before the championship? Were the New Year’s Races back when we had them? Big combinations are demanding, of course. The demand a lot of restitution and disrupt the World Cup programme. But the World Cup schedule is so thinned out these days, there is room for another big combination or two.

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
to me the real scandal about the actual qualification system is that some countries don't try to qualify he maximum skaters by making some of them skate the 2 distances required, focusing on the single distances world cup .

Well, they will lose out if they don’t focus on the single distances World Cup. You have to make a choice as long as it’s a combined event. That’s the biggest problem with it.

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
Canada had only 2 male sprinters skating the required 2 races to qualify for the world sprint championships. and also we qualified 3 ladies and 2 men for the allround championships but sent only one of each gender, apparently for budget reasons :(

Budget, smudget :-(

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
for the best junior I would gladly nominate fellow canadian Ben Donnelly or korean Min-Seok Kik,for being close second as a B2 junior. I do not personnaly follow junior world cups but i would pick the world junior champion over the junior world cup best skater :) especially when all the juniors dont skate the junior world cups.

Ok, I’ll second your nomination of Donnelly. After all he’s the official Junior World Champion allround. Even if it’s only over 500-1000-1500-5000. He did beat Bosker comprehensively in the 5000.

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
Alt om skÞyter:
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml

[[e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

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Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
to me the explanation of the choices is more interesting then the choices themselves :)

Ok, good. Where did you get Stephanie Beckert from, by the way?

i think she was listed in the unlucky skaters

Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
to me disadvantage v is not quite relevant since it doesnt remove a 10 k from the previuos calendar :)

No not from last year’s calendar, because the same system was in force then. But before that we had the qualifier events with full allround programmes.

i get it, yes there were a few more pairs of 10k when there were the north american and asian qualifiers. also im not sure if they cut the 10k from the european championship already, but its a shame for sure.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
i would also say that it's good that only the middle distances of the allround combination are skated in the qualification competition. if the full program was skated, then it would kinda be a championship before the championship.

Not exactly. Only the championship is the championship. Is the European Championship a championship before the championship? Were the New Year’s Races back when we had them? Big combinations are demanding, of course. The demand a lot of restitution and disrupt the World Cup programme. But the World Cup schedule is so thinned out these days, there is room for another big combination or two.

i would like to have combinations in the world cup, but as long as there is none, i think the current qualification format is good :)

Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
to me the real scandal about the actual qualification system is that some countries don't try to qualify he maximum skaters by making some of them skate the 2 distances required, focusing on the single distances world cup .

Well, they will lose out if they don’t focus on the single distances World Cup. You have to make a choice as long as it’s a combined event. That’s the biggest problem with it.

yes, they should actually add more quota places. they dont add enough with the current setup.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
Canada had only 2 male sprinters skating the required 2 races to qualify for the world sprint championships. and also we qualified 3 ladies and 2 men for the allround championships but sent only one of each gender, apparently for budget reasons :(

Budget, smudget :-(

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
for the best junior I would gladly nominate fellow canadian Ben Donnelly or korean Min-Seok Kik,for being close second as a B2 junior. I do not personnaly follow junior world cups but i would pick the world junior champion over the junior world cup best skater :) especially when all the juniors dont skate the junior world cups.

Ok, I’ll second your nomination of Donnelly. After all he’s the official Junior World Champion allround. Even if it’s only over 500-1000-1500-5000. He did beat Bosker comprehensively in the 5000.

correct, but the champion is the champion :) also i dont think the outcome would have been different had the 1k been replaced by the 3k

Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]
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The scandal is that a competition for specialists is used for a non-specialist (allround) competition.
On the 1500m both Kjeld Nuis and Thomas Krol had good chances to a podium ranking in the general classification.

This leaves room for three allrounders.
This problem could have been solved by allowing one more entry or holding a second 1500m (just like they did with the 1000m).
One way they encourage specialist, and on the other way they want allrounders to start in a specialist competition.
It is just like the 10 competitors rule in the Olympics.
If KNSB had decided to allow Jorrit or Sven to skate a 10k than there would have been difficulties with Thomas Krol who had a fair claim.

Gerrit


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to me the explanation of the choices is more interesting then the choices themselves :)

to me disadvantage v is not quite relevant since it doesnt remove a 10 k from the previuos calendar :)

i would also say that it's good that only the middle distances of the allround combination are skated in the qualification competition. if the full program was skated, then it would kinda be a championship before the championship.

to me the real scandal about the actual qualification system is that some countries don't try to qualify he maximum skaters by making some of them skate the 2 distances required, focusing on the single distances world cup .

Canada had only 2 male sprinters skating the required 2 races to qualify for the world sprint championships. and also we qualified 3 ladies and 2 men for the allround championships but sent only one of each gender, apparently for budget reasons :(

for the best junior I would gladly nominate fellow canadian Ben Donnelly or korean Min-Seok Kik,for being close second as a B2 junior. I do not personnaly follow junior world cups but i would pick the world junior champion over the junior world cup best skater :) especially when all the juniors dont skate the junior world cups.

JF

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Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
who else considers the qualification system for the world championships a scandal? i consider it much better then the previous one.

I partially agree, in that I consider it somewhat better than the previous one. It has some advantages: a) It is part of a popular event that is considered a real event in the places where it has been arranged (only in Norway so far). (Obviously it does not have this advantage over the European Championship.) b) All continents have equal chances of qualifying, there being no quotas carried over from last season. c) There is more than one way to qualify, so that if you miss one, you can catch up with another. d) The procedure is interesting for nerds like me. e) There are other competitions going on at the same time, to give non-nerds a chance for being entertained, too. f) It is new and therefore exciting. And then there are some disadvantages. i) Participants from other continents have a long way to travel, but this is alleviated by the event being part of the World Cup, which they will travel to anyway. ii) The procedure is complicated. iii) People who are qualified already have no interest in participating. iv) It is part of a regular World Cup event, which will take attention away from the qualifying event and will make it difficult for some nations to enter sufficient numbers of candidates due to the distance quotas. v) Only two of the allround distances are involved, removing at least one of the chances to skate a 10000 m during the season (at least for the men). vi) It is new and therefore a breach of tradition.
To me the advantages outweigh the disadvantages somewhat.

Post by ***@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
also what are the stories behind marcel bosker, stephanie beckert and the czech team as the best team??

Bosker had the best results in the junior World Cup as far as I can see. Please nominate another candidate if you have one. The same applies to the Czech team, it’s only my suggestion. But I think the way they perform against all odds, progressing as a team, is impressive.
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My other suggestions.


Best skater from JAPAN




Miho Takagi


Best skater from MONGOLIA




Dalanbayar Delgermaa


Best skater from ROMANIA




Raluca Stef


Best skater from SOUTH KOREA




Sang Hwa Lee


Best skater from SWEDEN




Nils van der Poel


Best male 500 m skater




void – You can nominate someone if you want to.




Best male 1000 m skater




void as well


Best male sprinter




void as well


Best female junior




Jelizaveta Kazelina




Best male junior




Ben Donnelly


Best team


Lotto-Jumbo


Most disappointing skater of the year


Tae Beom Mo


Unluckiest skater


Denny Morrison
Koen Verweij (not unlucky, more lazy)






Wednesday skater of the year


Kjeld Nuis


Most feared farewell


Each year an ECh allround and a WCh allround.


Best event




World Cup Salt Lake City




Most exciting duel


Bergsma-Kramer 5000m WC Final
Nuis-Kulizjnikov (2 1000ms in Stavanger)


Best race (Oscar-style)


Sablikova 3.58.11 Berlin


And finally: Best Skater




Martina Sablikova

['Brynjar Haarberg' [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

I use my SkÞyteranking system to enter these nominations:

Best skater from GERMANY

Claudia Pechstein

Best skater from JAPAN

Miho Takagi

Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN

Yekaterina Aydova

Best skater from POLAND

Konrad Niedzwiedzki

Best skater from SOUTH KOREA

Sang-hwa Lee

Best female 1500 m skater

Brittany Bowe

Best male 500 m skater

Ruslan Murashov

Best male 10 000 m skater

Sven Kramer


B. Haarberg
skoyteranking.net

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Hi,
Here are my nominations for this year. Please feel free to post yours if you disagree with me. All nominations that are entered and seconded by April 15 will enter the poll. Categories without seconded counter-nominations by then will be regarded as settled.
Best skater from AUSTRALIA
Daniel Greig
Best skater from AUSTRIA
Vanessa Bittner
Best skater from BELARUS
Vitalij Mikhajlov
Best skater from BELGIUM
Bart Swings
Best skater from BRAZIL
Victor Takeiji Minakawa
Best skater from CANADA
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Best skater from CHILE
Ricardo Verdugo
Best skater from CHINA
Hong Zhang
Best skater from COLOMBIA
Pedro Causil
Best skater from CROATIA
Diana Blagdan
Best skater from CZECH REPUBLIC
Martina Sábliková
Best skater from DENMARK
Viktor Hald Thorup
Best skater from ENGLAND
Cornelius Kersten
Best skater from ESTONIA
Marten Liiv
Best skater from FINLAND
Mika Poutala
Best skater from FRANCE
Alexis Contin
Best skater from GEORGIA
Nika Gabaidze
Best skater from GERMANY
Nico Ihle
Best skater from HUNGARY
Konrád Nagy
Best skater from INDIA
Stephen Paul Kilari
Best skater from ISRAEL
Vladislav Bykanov
Best skater from ITALY
Andrea Giovannini
Best skater from JAPAN
Misaki Oshigiri
Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN
Roman Kretsj
Best skater from LATVIA
Haralds Silovs
Best skater from MEXICO
Tomás Hernández
Best skater from MONGOLIA
Yalalt Zorigtbaatar
Best skater from NETHERLANDS
Sven Kramer
Best skater from NEW ZEALAND
Peter Michael
Best skater from NORWAY
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best skater from POLAND
Artur Waś
Best skater from PORTUGAL
Filipe André Felisberto
Best skater from ROMANIA
Andrei Parnică
Best skater from RUSSIA
Denis Juskov
Best skater from SCOTLAND
Scott Anderson
Best skater from SLOVAKIA
Kristian Terebesi
Best skater from SOUTH KOREA
Seung-Hoon Lee
Best skater from SPAIN
Iñigo Vidondo
Best skater from SWEDEN
David Andersson
Best skater from SWITZERLAND
Livio Wenger
Best skater from TAIWAN
Ching-Yang Sung
Best skater from THAILAND
Bertha Natalie Hognestad
Best skater from UKRAINE
Galina Popova
Best skater from USA
Brittany Bowe
Best female 500 m skater
Sang-Hwa Lee
Best female 1000 m skater
Brittany Bowe
Best female 1500 m skater
Jorien ter Mors
Best female 3000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
Best female 5000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
Best female 10000 m skater
Imke Vormeer
Best female sprinter
Brittany Bowe
Best female allrounder
Martina Sábliková
Best female mass start skater
Irene Schouten
Best male 500 m skater
void – You can nominate someone if you want to.
Best male 1000 m skater
Kjeld Nuis
Best male 1500 m skater
Denis Juskov
Best male 3000 m skater
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best male 5000 m skater
Sven Kramer
Best male 10000 m skater
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Best male sprinter
Kjeld Nuis
Best male allrounder
Sven Kramer
Best male mass-start skater
Seung-Hoon Lee
Best female junior
Ji-Woo Park
Best male junior
Marcel Bosker
Best coach
Petr Novák
Best team
Czech national team
Break-through of the year
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Come-back of the year
Jan Blokhuijsen
Biggest surprise
12.36,30
Most disappointing skater of the year
Ida Njåtun
Unluckiest skater
Koen Verweij
Wednesday skater of the year
Heather Richardson-Bergsma
Most feared farewell
The European allround Championship
Most desired comeback
Håvard BÞkko
Best event
World Cup Salt Lake City
Most exciting duel
Swings-Michael 5000 m WSD Kolomna
Best race (Oscar-style)
Sven Kramer 6.10,31
Best venue
Hol stadion
Biggest shame/scandal
The meldonium saga
And finally: Best Skater
Sven Kramer
Hilsen Lars Finsen

[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from GERMANY
Claudia Pechstein

Hm, what does your ranking system think she has done to top Ihle’s bronze medal? I’m not sure if I will second this, but maybe someone else will.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from JAPAN
Miho Takagi

Fair enough, I’ll second that. She was better than Oshigiri for parts of the season.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN
Yekaterina Aydova

I’ll second that, too. She and Kretsj were fairly equal.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from POLAND
Konrad Niedzwiedzki

I think Artur has kind of an edge because of individual results, but it’s a matter of fine-counting, and I’ll second this, too.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from SOUTH KOREA
Sang-hwa Lee

Seconded. And I don’t know what I meant by nominating Seung-Hoon Lee. I must have looked at last year’s results. Though he did win the gold in Kolomna. I think I’ll withdraw him.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best female 1500 m skater
Brittany Bowe

Fair enough. The World Cup winner should be nominated, though she didn’t have Jorien to contend with in any World Cup race. I’ll second it.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best male 500 m skater
Ruslan Murashov

Ok. He will be nominated if anyone seconds him.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best male 10 000 m skater
Sven Kramer

Already nominated and seconded.

Thanks for your nominations.

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
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http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
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['Brynjar Haarberg' [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Pechstein is ranked 19 (1500), 10 (3000) and 3 (5000) at the end of this season. This means she is no. 11 in the total rankings.

http://www.skoyteranking.net/45500110

N. Ihle is ranked 39 (500) and 22 (1000). He is no. 43 in the total rankings, where also his strong Wch result is included.

http://www.skoyteranking.net/45500116

So Ihle's Seoul results is strong, but I guess Pechstein was better if you look at the entire season.


Murashov is on top of the 500 m ranking, and he won the World cup as well as the WSD title (if you don't count PK)

http://www.skoyteranking.net/45500107


B. Haarberg.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from GERMANY
Claudia Pechstein

Hm, what does your ranking system think she has done to top Ihle’s bronze medal? I’m not sure if I will second this, but maybe someone else will.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from JAPAN
Miho Takagi

Fair enough, I’ll second that. She was better than Oshigiri for parts of the season.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN
Yekaterina Aydova

I’ll second that, too. She and Kretsj were fairly equal.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from POLAND
Konrad Niedzwiedzki

I think Artur has kind of an edge because of individual results, but it’s a matter of fine-counting, and I’ll second this, too.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from SOUTH KOREA
Sang-hwa Lee

Seconded. And I don’t know what I meant by nominating Seung-Hoon Lee. I must have looked at last year’s results. Though he did win the gold in Kolomna. I think I’ll withdraw him.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best female 1500 m skater
Brittany Bowe

Fair enough. The World Cup winner should be nominated, though she didn’t have Jorien to contend with in any World Cup race. I’ll second it.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best male 500 m skater
Ruslan Murashov

Ok. He will be nominated if anyone seconds him.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best male 10 000 m skater
Sven Kramer

Already nominated and seconded.
Thanks for your nominations.
hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
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Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
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['Caroline van Staaveren' [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

I like to add

Kjelld Nuis as Best skater from the Netherlands to the list I read.



And Ireen Wust as unluckiest skater



And to the scandal

The doping afairs



Feared farewells

Koen Verweij



Greetings Caroline

Op 28-3-2016 09:27:11, schreef Brynjar Haarberg'
Best skater from GERMANY
Claudia Pechstein
Best skater from JAPAN
Miho Takagi
Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN
Yekaterina Aydova
Best skater from POLAND
Konrad Niedzwiedzki
Best skater from SOUTH KOREA
Sang-hwa Lee
Best female 1500 m skater
Brittany Bowe
Best male 500 m skater
Ruslan Murashov
Best male 10 000 m skater
Sven Kramer
B. Haarberg
skoyteranking.net

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Hi,
Here are my nominations for this year. Please feel free to post yours if

you disagree with me. All nominations that are entered and seconded by April
15 will enter the poll. Categories without seconded counter-nominations by
then will be regarded as settled.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from AUSTRALIA
Daniel Greig
Best skater from AUSTRIA
Vanessa Bittner
Best

[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Post by 'Caroline van Staaveren' ***@quicknet.nl [Speed_skating]
I like to add
Kjelld Nuis as Best skater from the Netherlands to the list I read.
And Ireen Wust as unluckiest skater

Okay. Kjeld does have quite an opposition to contend with in that category. But I’ll second both of them.

Post by 'Caroline van Staaveren' ***@quicknet.nl [Speed_skating]
And to the scandal
The doping afairs

I already nominated those.

Greetings,
Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
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Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
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[Nils Meland [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Some alternatives (don't know if they have been mentioned already):

Best skater from CHILE: Claudio Sandoval
Best skater from GERMANY: Patrick Beckert
Best skater from POLAND: Piotr Michalski
Best skater from SWITZERLAND: Christian Oberbichler
Break-through of the year: Kai Verbij? Natalia Voronina?
Come-back of the year: Jorien ter Mors? William Dutton? Antoinette de Jong?

Nils Meland

[[e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

best coach: Kevin Crockett

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Post by Nils Meland ***@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
Best skater from CHILE: Claudio Sandoval
Best skater from GERMANY: Patrick Beckert
Best skater from POLAND: Piotr Michalski
Best skater from SWITZERLAND: Christian Oberbichler
Break-through of the year: Kai Verbij? Natalia Voronina?
Come-back of the year: Jorien ter Mors? William Dutton? Antoinette de Jong?
Nils Meland
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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Thanks for all your nominations. Below is a list of all the nominees, including some non-seconded ones (the ones in parentheses) that will not enter the poll unless someone seconds them. I will set up the voting page tomorrow and start the poll on Friday. Meanwhile you can add other nominations you can think of or second any non-seconded ones if you like.

Best skater from AUSTRALIA

Daniel Greig

Best skater from AUSTRIA

Vanessa Bittner

Best skater from AZERBAIJAN

Rza Gazimov unseconded

Best skater from BELARUS

Vitalij Mikhajlov

Best skater from BELGIUM

Bart Swings

Best skater from BRAZIL

Victor Takeiji Minakawa

Best skater from CANADA

Ted-Jan Bloemen

Best skater from CHILE

Ricardo Verdugo
(Claudio Sandoval)

Best skater from CHINA

Hong Zhang

Best skater from COLOMBIA

Pedro Causil

Best skater from CROATIA

Diana Blagdan

Best skater from CZECH REPUBLIC

Martina Sábliková

Best skater from DENMARK

Viktor Hald Thorup

Best skater from ENGLAND

Cornelius Kersten

Best skater from ESTONIA

Marten Liiv
Saskia Alusalu

Best skater from FINLAND

Mika Poutala

Best skater from FRANCE

Alexis Contin

Best skater from GEORGIA

Nika Gabaidze

Best skater from GERMANY

Nico Ihle
(Claudia Pechstein)
(Patrick Beckert)

Best skater from HUNGARY

Konrád Nagy

Best skater from INDIA

Stephen Paul Kilari

Best skater from ISRAEL

Vladislav Bykanov

Best skater from ITALY

Andrea Giovannini
(Francesca Lollobrigida)

Best skater from JAPAN

Misaki Oshigiri
Miho Takagi

Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN

Roman Kretsj
Jekaterina Ajdova

Best skater from LATVIA

Haralds Silovs

Best skater from MEXICO

Tomás Hernández

Best skater from MONGOLIA

Yalalt Zorigtbaatar
(Dalanbayar Delgermaa)

Best skater from NETHERLANDS

Sven Kramer
Jorien ter Mors
Kjeld Nuis

Best skater from NEW ZEALAND

Peter Michael

Best skater from NORWAY

Sverre Lunde Pedersen

Best skater from POLAND

Artur Waś
Konrad Niedźwiedzki
(Piotr Michalski)

Best skater from PORTUGAL

Filipe André Felisberto

Best skater from ROMANIA

Andrei Parnică
(Raluca Stef)

Best skater from RUSSIA

Denis Juskov

Best skater from SCOTLAND

Scott Anderson

Best skater from SLOVAKIA

Kristian Terebesi

Best skater from SOUTH KOREA

Sang-Hwa Lee

Best skater from SPAIN

Iñigo Vidondo

Best skater from SWEDEN

David Andersson
(Nils van der Poel)

Best skater from SWITZERLAND

Livio Wenger
(Christian Oberbichler)

Best skater from TAIWAN

Ching-Yang Sung

Best skater from THAILAND

Bertha Natalie Hognestad

Best skater from UKRAINE

Galina Popova

Best skater from USA

Brittany Bowe
(Heather Richardson-Bergsma)

Best female 500 m skater

Sang-Hwa Lee

Best female 1000 m skater

Brittany Bowe
Jorien ter Mors

Best female 1500 m skater

Jorien ter Mors
Brittany Bowe

Best female 3000 m skater

Martina Sábliková

Best female 5000 m skater

Martina Sábliková
(Carien Kleibeuker)

Best female 10000 m skater

Imke Vormeer

Best female sprinter

Brittany Bowe

Best female allrounder

Martina Sábliková

Best female mass start skater

Irene Schouten

Best male 500 m skater

Pavel Kulizjnikov
Ruslan Murasjov

Best male 1000 m skater

Kjeld Nuis
(Pavel Kulizjnikov)

Best male 1500 m skater

Denis Juskov

Best male 3000 m skater

Sverre Lunde Pedersen

Best male 5000 m skater

Sven Kramer

Best male 10000 m skater

Ted-Jan Bloemen
(Sven Kramer)

Best male sprinter

Kjeld Nuis
(Pavel Kulizjnikov)

Best male allrounder

Sven Kramer

Best male mass-start skater

Seung-Hoon Lee
(Ingmar Berga)
(Arjan Stroetinga)

Best female junior

Ji-Woo Park
(Jelizaveta Kazelina)

Best male junior

Marcel Bosker
Ben Donnelly
(Min-Seok Kik)

Best coach

Petr Novák
(Kevin Crockett)
(Jac Orie)

Best team

Czech national team
Lotto-Jumbo

Break-through of the year

Ted-Jan Bloemen
(Daidai Ntab)
Natalja Voronina
Peter Michael
(Kai Verbij)

Come-back of the year

Jan Blokhuijsen
Jorien ter Mors
(Hege BÞkko)
(Simen Spieler Nilsen)
(Håvard BÞkko)
(William Dutton)
(Antoinette de Jong)

Biggest surprise

12.36,30

Most disappointing skater of the year

Ida Njåtun
(Denis Juskov)
(Jorrit Bergsma)
(Tae-Bum Mo)
(Pavel Kulizjnikov)
(Michel Mulder)

Unluckiest skater

Koen Verweij
(Lotte van Beek)
(Stephanie Beckert)
Denny Morrison
Ireen WÃŒst
Bart Swings
(Thijsje Oenema)

Wednesday skater of the year

Heather Richardson-Bergsma
Joey Mantia
(Kjeld Nuis)
(Sverre Lunde Pedersen)

Most feared farewell

The European allround Championship
Annual allround championships
(Koen Verweij)
Øystein GrÞdum
Frida van Megen
(Allround big samalog)

Most desired comeback

Håvard BÞkko

Best event

World Cup Salt Lake City
WSD Kolomna
WCh Berlin

Most exciting duel

Swings-Michael 5000 m WSD Kolomna
Sáblíková-WÌst Berlin
Nuis-Kulizjnikov 1000 m Stavanger x 2
Michael-Kooiman 10000 m Salt Lake City WC
(Kramer-Bergsma 5000 m WC final Heerenveen)

Best race (Oscar-style)

Sven Kramer 6.10,31
T J Bloemen 12.36,30
Sáblíková 3.58,11
Brittany Bowe 1.12,18
Heather Richardson 1.50,85

Best venue

Hol stadion
Sportforum, Berlin
SÞrmarka Arena, Stavanger
Uralskaja Molnija, Minsk

Biggest shame/scandal

The meldonium saga
(The WC Stavanger qualifier for WCh)
The KNSB failing to enter a 4th participant in the WCh qualifier
Some countries not trying to qualify the maximum skaters at the WCh qualifier event by making them skate the 2 distances required, focusing on the single distance world cup.
(No Sang-Hwa Lee in Seoul SWC)

And finally: Best Skater

Sven Kramer
(Jorien ter Mors)
Martina Sáblíková
(Kjeld Nuis)
(Brittany Bowe)

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
Alt om skÞyter:
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml

['Brynjar Haarberg' [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

I second every nomination that didn't come from myself...

B. Haarberg.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]
Thanks for all your nominations. Below is a list of all the nominees, including some non-seconded ones (the ones in parentheses) that will not enter the poll unless someone seconds them. I will set up the voting page tomorrow and start the poll on Friday. Meanwhile you can add other nominations you can think of or second any non-seconded ones if you like.
Best skater from AUSTRALIA
Daniel Greig
Best skater from AUSTRIA
Vanessa Bittner
Best skater from AZERBAIJAN
Rza Gazimov unseconded
Best skater from BELARUS
Vitalij Mikhajlov
Best skater from BELGIUM
Bart Swings
Best skater from BRAZIL
Victor Takeiji Minakawa
Best skater from CANADA
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Best skater from CHILE
Ricardo Verdugo
(Claudio Sandoval)
Best skater from CHINA
Hong Zhang
Best skater from COLOMBIA
Pedro Causil
Best skater from CROATIA
Diana Blagdan
Best skater from CZECH REPUBLIC
Martina Sábliková
Best skater from DENMARK
Viktor Hald Thorup
Best skater from ENGLAND
Cornelius Kersten
Best skater from ESTONIA
Marten Liiv
Saskia Alusalu
Best skater from FINLAND
Mika Poutala
Best skater from FRANCE
Alexis Contin
Best skater from GEORGIA
Nika Gabaidze
Best skater from GERMANY
Nico Ihle
(Claudia Pechstein)
(Patrick Beckert)
Best skater from HUNGARY
Konrád Nagy
Best skater from INDIA
Stephen Paul Kilari
Best skater from ISRAEL
Vladislav Bykanov
Best skater from ITALY
Andrea Giovannini
(Francesca Lollobrigida)
Best skater from JAPAN
Misaki Oshigiri
Miho Takagi
Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN
Roman Kretsj
Jekaterina Ajdova
Best skater from LATVIA
Haralds Silovs
Best skater from MEXICO
Tomás Hernández
Best skater from MONGOLIA
Yalalt Zorigtbaatar
(Dalanbayar Delgermaa)
Best skater from NETHERLANDS
Sven Kramer
Jorien ter Mors
Kjeld Nuis
Best skater from NEW ZEALAND
Peter Michael
Best skater from NORWAY
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best skater from POLAND
Artur Waś
Konrad Niedźwiedzki
(Piotr Michalski)
Best skater from PORTUGAL
Filipe André Felisberto
Best skater from ROMANIA
Andrei Parnică
(Raluca Stef)
Best skater from RUSSIA
Denis Juskov
Best skater from SCOTLAND
Scott Anderson
Best skater from SLOVAKIA
Kristian Terebesi
Best skater from SOUTH KOREA
Sang-Hwa Lee
Best skater from SPAIN
Iñigo Vidondo
Best skater from SWEDEN
David Andersson
(Nils van der Poel)
Best skater from SWITZERLAND
Livio Wenger
(Christian Oberbichler)
Best skater from TAIWAN
Ching-Yang Sung
Best skater from THAILAND
Bertha Natalie Hognestad
Best skater from UKRAINE
Galina Popova
Best skater from USA
Brittany Bowe
(Heather Richardson-Bergsma)
Best female 500 m skater
Sang-Hwa Lee
Best female 1000 m skater
Brittany Bowe
Jorien ter Mors
Best female 1500 m skater
Jorien ter Mors
Brittany Bowe
Best female 3000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
Best female 5000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
(Carien Kleibeuker)
Best female 10000 m skater
Imke Vormeer
Best female sprinter
Brittany Bowe
Best female allrounder
Martina Sábliková
Best female mass start skater
Irene Schouten
Best male 500 m skater
Pavel Kulizjnikov
Ruslan Murasjov
Best male 1000 m skater
Kjeld Nuis
(Pavel Kulizjnikov)
Best male 1500 m skater
Denis Juskov
Best male 3000 m skater
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best male 5000 m skater
Sven Kramer
Best male 10000 m skater
Ted-Jan Bloemen
(Sven Kramer)
Best male sprinter
Kjeld Nuis
(Pavel Kulizjnikov)
Best male allrounder
Sven Kramer
Best male mass-start skater
Seung-Hoon Lee
(Ingmar Berga)
(Arjan Stroetinga)
Best female junior
Ji-Woo Park
(Jelizaveta Kazelina)
Best male junior
Marcel Bosker
Ben Donnelly
(Min-Seok Kik)
Best coach
Petr Novák
(Kevin Crockett)
(Jac Orie)
Best team
Czech national team
Lotto-Jumbo
Break-through of the year
Ted-Jan Bloemen
(Daidai Ntab)
Natalja Voronina
Peter Michael
(Kai Verbij)
Come-back of the year
Jan Blokhuijsen
Jorien ter Mors
(Hege BÞkko)
(Simen Spieler Nilsen)
(Håvard BÞkko)
(William Dutton)
(Antoinette de Jong)
Biggest surprise
12.36,30
Most disappointing skater of the year
Ida Njåtun
(Denis Juskov)
(Jorrit Bergsma)
(Tae-Bum Mo)
(Pavel Kulizjnikov)
(Michel Mulder)
Unluckiest skater
Koen Verweij
(Lotte van Beek)
(Stephanie Beckert)
Denny Morrison
Ireen WÃŒst
Bart Swings
(Thijsje Oenema)
Wednesday skater of the year
Heather Richardson-Bergsma
Joey Mantia
(Kjeld Nuis)
(Sverre Lunde Pedersen)
Most feared farewell
The European allround Championship
Annual allround championships
(Koen Verweij)
Øystein GrÞdum
Frida van Megen
(Allround big samalog)
Most desired comeback
Håvard BÞkko
Best event
World Cup Salt Lake City
WSD Kolomna
WCh Berlin
Most exciting duel
Swings-Michael 5000 m WSD Kolomna
Sáblíková-WÌst Berlin
Nuis-Kulizjnikov 1000 m Stavanger x 2
Michael-Kooiman 10000 m Salt Lake City WC
(Kramer-Bergsma 5000 m WC final Heerenveen)
Best race (Oscar-style)
Sven Kramer 6.10,31
T J Bloemen 12.36,30
Sáblíková 3.58,11
Brittany Bowe 1.12,18
Heather Richardson 1.50,85
Best venue
Hol stadion
Sportforum, Berlin
SÞrmarka Arena, Stavanger
Uralskaja Molnija, Minsk
Biggest shame/scandal
The meldonium saga
(The WC Stavanger qualifier for WCh)
The KNSB failing to enter a 4th participant in the WCh qualifier
Some countries not trying to qualify the maximum skaters at the WCh qualifier event by making them skate the 2 distances required, focusing on the single distance world cup.
(No Sang-Hwa Lee in Seoul SWC)
And finally: Best Skater
Sven Kramer
(Jorien ter Mors)
Martina Sáblíková
(Kjeld Nuis)
(Brittany Bowe)
hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml

['Gerrit Stevens' [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

I do too, so that means every nomination (also in parentheses) has been seconded.

Gerrit Stevens

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Subject: Re: [Skate] The Uni-Koeln awards 2016


I second every nomination that didn't come from myself...

B. Haarberg.

Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]
Thanks for all your nominations. Below is a list of all the nominees, including some non-seconded ones (the ones in parentheses) that will not enter the poll unless someone seconds them. I will set up the voting page tomorrow and start the poll on Friday. Meanwhile you can add other nominations you can think of or second any non-seconded ones if you like.
Best skater from AUSTRALIA
Daniel Greig
Best skater from AUSTRIA
Vanessa Bittner
Best skater from AZERBAIJAN
Rza Gazimov unseconded
Best skater from BELARUS
Vitalij Mikhajlov
Best skater from BELGIUM
Bart Swings
Best skater from BRAZIL
Victor Takeiji Minakawa
Best skater from CANADA
Ted-Jan Bloemen
Best skater from CHILE
Ricardo Verdugo
(Claudio Sandoval)
Best skater from CHINA
Hong Zhang
Best skater from COLOMBIA
Pedro Causil
Best skater from CROATIA
Diana Blagdan
Best skater from CZECH REPUBLIC
Martina Sábliková
Best skater from DENMARK
Viktor Hald Thorup
Best skater from ENGLAND
Cornelius Kersten
Best skater from ESTONIA
Marten Liiv
Saskia Alusalu
Best skater from FINLAND
Mika Poutala
Best skater from FRANCE
Alexis Contin
Best skater from GEORGIA
Nika Gabaidze
Best skater from GERMANY
Nico Ihle
(Claudia Pechstein)
(Patrick Beckert)
Best skater from HUNGARY
Konrád Nagy
Best skater from INDIA
Stephen Paul Kilari
Best skater from ISRAEL
Vladislav Bykanov
Best skater from ITALY
Andrea Giovannini
(Francesca Lollobrigida)
Best skater from JAPAN
Misaki Oshigiri
Miho Takagi
Best skater from KAZAKHSTAN
Roman Kretsj
Jekaterina Ajdova
Best skater from LATVIA
Haralds Silovs
Best skater from MEXICO
Tomás Hernández
Best skater from MONGOLIA
Yalalt Zorigtbaatar
(Dalanbayar Delgermaa)
Best skater from NETHERLANDS
Sven Kramer
Jorien ter Mors
Kjeld Nuis
Best skater from NEW ZEALAND
Peter Michael
Best skater from NORWAY
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best skater from POLAND
Artur Waś
Konrad Niedźwiedzki
(Piotr Michalski)
Best skater from PORTUGAL
Filipe André Felisberto
Best skater from ROMANIA
Andrei Parnică
(Raluca Stef)
Best skater from RUSSIA
Denis Juskov
Best skater from SCOTLAND
Scott Anderson
Best skater from SLOVAKIA
Kristian Terebesi
Best skater from SOUTH KOREA
Sang-Hwa Lee
Best skater from SPAIN
Iñigo Vidondo
Best skater from SWEDEN
David Andersson
(Nils van der Poel)
Best skater from SWITZERLAND
Livio Wenger
(Christian Oberbichler)
Best skater from TAIWAN
Ching-Yang Sung
Best skater from THAILAND
Bertha Natalie Hognestad
Best skater from UKRAINE
Galina Popova
Best skater from USA
Brittany Bowe
(Heather Richardson-Bergsma)
Best female 500 m skater
Sang-Hwa Lee
Best female 1000 m skater
Brittany Bowe
Jorien ter Mors
Best female 1500 m skater
Jorien ter Mors
Brittany Bowe
Best female 3000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
Best female 5000 m skater
Martina Sábliková
(Carien Kleibeuker)
Best female 10000 m skater
Imke Vormeer
Best female sprinter
Brittany Bowe
Best female allrounder
Martina Sábliková
Best female mass start skater
Irene Schouten
Best male 500 m skater
Pavel Kulizjnikov
Ruslan Murasjov
Best male 1000 m skater
Kjeld Nuis
(Pavel Kulizjnikov)
Best male 1500 m skater
Denis Juskov
Best male 3000 m skater
Sverre Lunde Pedersen
Best male 5000 m skater
Sven Kramer
Best male 10000 m skater
Ted-Jan Bloemen
(Sven Kramer)
Best male sprinter
Kjeld Nuis
(Pavel Kulizjnikov)
Best male allrounder
Sven Kramer
Best male mass-start skater
Seung-Hoon Lee
(Ingmar Berga)
(Arjan Stroetinga)
Best female junior
Ji-Woo Park
(Jelizaveta Kazelina)
Best male junior
Marcel Bosker
Ben Donnelly
(Min-Seok Kik)
Best coach
Petr Novák
(Kevin Crockett)
(Jac Orie)
Best team
Czech national team
Lotto-Jumbo
Break-through of the year
Ted-Jan Bloemen
(Daidai Ntab)
Natalja Voronina
Peter Michael
(Kai Verbij)
Come-back of the year
Jan Blokhuijsen
Jorien ter Mors
(Hege BÞkko)
(Simen Spieler Nilsen)
(Håvard BÞkko)
(William Dutton)
(Antoinette de Jong)
Biggest surprise
12.36,30
Most disappointing skater of the year
Ida Njåtun
(Denis Juskov)
(Jorrit Bergsma)
(Tae-Bum Mo)
(Pavel Kulizjnikov)
(Michel Mulder)
Unluckiest skater
Koen Verweij
(Lotte van Beek)
(Stephanie Beckert)
Denny Morrison
Ireen WÃŒst
Bart Swings
(Thijsje Oenema)
Wednesday skater of the year
Heather Richardson-Bergsma
Joey Mantia
(Kjeld Nuis)
(Sverre Lunde Pedersen)
Most feared farewell
The European allround Championship
Annual allround championships
(Koen Verweij)
Øystein GrÞdum
Frida van Megen
(Allround big samalog)
Most desired comeback
Håvard BÞkko
Best event
World Cup Salt Lake City
WSD Kolomna
WCh Berlin
Most exciting duel
Swings-Michael 5000 m WSD Kolomna
Sáblíková-WÌst Berlin
Nuis-Kulizjnikov 1000 m Stavanger x 2
Michael-Kooiman 10000 m Salt Lake City WC
(Kramer-Bergsma 5000 m WC final Heerenveen)
Best race (Oscar-style)
Sven Kramer 6.10,31
T J Bloemen 12.36,30
Sáblíková 3.58,11
Brittany Bowe 1.12,18
Heather Richardson 1.50,85
Best venue
Hol stadion
Sportforum, Berlin
SÞrmarka Arena, Stavanger
Uralskaja Molnija, Minsk
Biggest shame/scandal
The meldonium saga
(The WC Stavanger qualifier for WCh)
The KNSB failing to enter a 4th participant in the WCh qualifier
Some countries not trying to qualify the maximum skaters at the WCh qualifier event by making them skate the 2 distances required, focusing on the single distance world cup.
(No Sang-Hwa Lee in Seoul SWC)
And finally: Best Skater
Sven Kramer
(Jorien ter Mors)
Martina Sáblíková
(Kjeld Nuis)
(Brittany Bowe)
hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml

[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Post by 'Gerrit Stevens' ***@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
I do too, so that means every nomination (also in parentheses) has been seconded.

I cannot accept wholesale seconding. If you think any of the unseconded nominations are really relevant to the poll, please mention them by name. Including irrelevant candidates to the poll will tempt someone, for example fans of that particular skater, to waste their votes instead of participating in the poll to elect the real best skater in that category.

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
Alt om skÞyter:
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml

[Heyakeessie [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]

Post by 'Gerrit Stevens' ***@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
I do too, so that means every nomination (also in parentheses) has been seconded.

I cannot accept wholesale seconding. If you think any of the unseconded nominations are really relevant to the poll, please mention them by name. Including irrelevant candidates to the poll will tempt someone, for example fans of that particular skater, to waste their votes instead of participating in the poll to elect the real best skater in that category.

I also support that every nomination between brackets should be
seconded. Do you define the rules
for the KOLN skatelist or do we? This is Cinquanta behaviour.
If it is a majorite vote it is 3 against one.
There never have been fangroups here that massivley voted for irrelevant
candidates. If it happens we can
talk about it.

BTW this email list is virtually dead after 21 years of excistence

Keessie




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Post by Heyakeessie ***@kpnmail.nl [Speed_skating]
I also support that every nomination between brackets should be
seconded. Do you define the rules for the KOLN skatelist or do we? This is Cinquanta behaviour.

I’m taking pains to organise this poll, so I define the rules. But maybe we should just forget about the whole thing. I have plenty more to do.

Post by Heyakeessie ***@kpnmail.nl [Speed_skating]
If it is a majorite vote it is 3 against one.
There never have been fangroups here that massivley voted for irrelevant
candidates. If it happens we can talk about it.

Even if the irrelevant candidates don’t get many votes, the votes cast for them are wasted and ought to be cast on the relevant candidates. Often the differences are small and wasted votes can tip the balance. Maybe we should have a discussion about the unseconded candidates. There could possible be good reasons for including some of them if not all.

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