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[Skate] Guessing European Championship 2016
Arild Jensen arjense@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-07 07:26:59 UTC
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Dear friends of speed skating
Bergen, January 7, 2016

I am leaving for Minsk today.
Will I see you there?

Here is my guesses for the championship

Women
1 M. Sablikova
2 I. WÃŒst
3 A. de Jong
4 M. Joling
5 I. Njåtun
6 N. Voronina
7 L Zlotkowska
8 O. Graf

Not to 5K
9 N. Czerwonka
10 E. Kazelina
11 K. Wozniak
12 J. Peeters

Distanse winners.
500 I WÃŒst 39,36
3000 M. Sablikova 4.02,44
1500 I. WÃŒst 1,55,46
5000 M. Sablikova 6.52,28



Men
1 S. Kramer
2 B. Swings
3 S Lunde-Pedersen
4 A. Contin
5 D. Juskov
6 J. Blokhuijsen
7 D. de Vries
8 H. BÞkko

Not to 10 K
9 A. Giovannini
10 H. Silovs
11 S. Henriksen
12 D. Sinitsyn


Distanse winners.


500: H. BÞkko 36.14
5000 S. Kramer 6.16.07
1500 D. Juskov 1.45,12
10000 S. Kramer 13.05.14

What is your Guess?

Arild J.
'Hovde, Robert' Robert.Hovde@mfa.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-07 09:37:29 UTC
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Sent: 7. januar 2016 10:27

Here is my guesses for the championship


Where can we find the list of participants?

Regards,
Robert Hovde
'mwarnaar@planet.nl' mwarnaar@planet.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-01-07 11:58:55 UTC
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At http://www.schaatsen.nl/media/20002/dames.pdf
Only 17 women, all-time low.
and
http://www.schaatsen.nl/media/20001/heren.pdf
The large number of absent skaters shows to me that allround is definitively gone. Even if this Heretic Samalog for next year will be withdrawn. As much as I regret it, the Single Distances will be the only thing left.
Marcel
Where can we find the list of participants?

Regards,
Robert Hovde





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robert koorneef robertkoorneef@me.com [Speed_skating]
2016-01-07 14:33:03 UTC
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This is the first allround tournament for dutch speedskaters in 2015/16... A tournament included in the single distance championships was mentioned as a selection for the ECh.
The norwegians, russians, held a real AR tournament, poland with a 3000m, swings was not present at belgium champs, austrian was diminished to 1 selectable speedskater... It's finished ...a last farwell to the european allround tournament.

Robert

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Post by '***@planet.nl' ***@planet.nl [Speed_skating]
At http://www.schaatsen.nl/media/20002/dames.pdf
Only 17 women, all-time low.
and
http://www.schaatsen.nl/media/20001/heren.pdf
The large number of absent skaters shows to me that allround is definitively gone. Even if this Heretic Samalog for next year will be withdrawn. As much as I regret it, the Single Distances will be the only thing left.
Marcel
Where can we find the list of participants?
Regards,
Robert Hovde
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Nils Meland nils.meland5@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-07 20:24:19 UTC
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Large number of missing skaters?? Apart from Contin and Pechstein, which
skaters are you missing? Thorup, Van der Poel (about to make a
comeback), Peeters maybe. Compared to last year, Belgium and Sweden are
missing from the women's EC while Italy have come back. Among the men,
Denmark and Sweden are missing while Finland and Spain have come back. I
don't think there would be many more nations in a European single
distance championships.
Post by '***@planet.nl' ***@planet.nl [Speed_skating]
At http://www.schaatsen.nl/media/20002/dames.pdf
Only 17 women, all-time low.
and
http://www.schaatsen.nl/media/20001/heren.pdf
The large number of absent skaters shows to me that allround is definitively gone. Even if this Heretic Samalog for next year will be withdrawn. As much as I regret it, the Single Distances will be the only thing left.
Marcel
Where can we find the list of participants?
Regards,
Robert Hovde
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Lars Finsen lars.finsen@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 06:05:23 UTC
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Post by Nils Meland ***@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
Large number of missing skaters?? Apart from Contin and Pechstein, which
skaters are you missing? Thorup, Van der Poel (about to make a
comeback), Peeters maybe. Compared to last year, Belgium and Sweden are
missing from the women's EC while Italy have come back. Among the men,
Denmark and Sweden are missing while Finland and Spain have come back. I
don't think there would be many more nations in a European single
distance championships.
Bergsma is the most significant absentee, I guess. He would have been a great addition.

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
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Nils Meland nils.meland5@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 07:06:59 UTC
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I agree, but NED still has a strong team.
Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]
Post by Nils Meland ***@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
Large number of missing skaters?? Apart from Contin and Pechstein, which
skaters are you missing? Thorup, Van der Poel (about to make a
comeback), Peeters maybe. Compared to last year, Belgium and Sweden are
missing from the women's EC while Italy have come back. Among the men,
Denmark and Sweden are missing while Finland and Spain have come back. I
don't think there would be many more nations in a European single
distance championships.
Bergsma is the most significant absentee, I guess. He would have been a great addition.
hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
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'Gerrit Stevens' gerstenat@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 08:18:20 UTC
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The biggest addition would be Jorien ter Mors. I think she could easily win this championship.

Gerrit Stevens



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I agree, but NED still has a strong team.
Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]
Post by Nils Meland ***@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
Large number of missing skaters?? Apart from Contin and Pechstein, which
skaters are you missing? Thorup, Van der Poel (about to make a
comeback), Peeters maybe. Compared to last year, Belgium and Sweden are
missing from the women's EC while Italy have come back. Among the men,
Denmark and Sweden are missing while Finland and Spain have come back. I
don't think there would be many more nations in a European single
distance championships.
Bergsma is the most significant absentee, I guess. He would have been a great addition.
hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml
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Lars Finsen lars.finsen@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 09:11:28 UTC
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Post by 'Gerrit Stevens' ***@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
The biggest addition would be Jorien ter Mors. I think she could easily win this championship.
Maybe, but apparently she isn’t in her best form in the longer distances. Would be a great addition anyway.

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
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http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
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'Gerrit Stevens' gerstenat@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 09:51:15 UTC
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I donÂŽt know if she isnÂŽt in her best form on the longer distances.
She did not skate any yet (I donÂŽt think she will this season) but usually she is one of the best. Only time she failed was at the Olympic qualification tournament when she came back from a serious illness.
Anyway she is in topshape on the shorter distances.
In the Netherlands by far the strongest on 500 (used to be her weakest distance), 1000m and 1500 (1,2 seconds ahead of Wust) in a race she was not at all satisfied.



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Post by 'Gerrit Stevens' ***@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
The biggest addition would be Jorien ter Mors. I think she could easily win this championship.
Maybe, but apparently she isn’t in her best form in the longer distances. Would be a great addition anyway.

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
Alt om skÞyter:
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'mwarnaar@planet.nl' mwarnaar@planet.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 08:22:06 UTC
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I still have this idea, and it is maybe very naive nowadays, that the best skaters should be in allround championships.
But what I do see is that these good skaters turn away from allround more and more. The no. 1 of the Adelskalenderen doesn't do allround for years anymore. More and more skaters focus on their favorite single distance and skip allround, And it is all very understandable, most of them get their money from the national Olympic Committee and they ask for results at the WCh Single Distances.


Come to this, that in a lot of countries the qualification time limit is made by so few skaters. Well, Germany has some skaters to choose from and come with a B-team: no Beckert (2x), Geisreiter, no Pechstein, Ost, Dufter...


And even when skaters make this not very strict time limit, they don't show up! Where are you, Eva Lagrange, Johanna östlund, Elena MÞller, Jelena Peeters, Viola Feichtner, Raluca Stef; Nils van der Poel, Viktor Thorup, Stefan Due Schmidt, Alexis Contin, Bram Smallenbroek?


At least, the skaters (and/or their federations) do not make a statement with this behavior that they want to preserve the ECh as it is.
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Datum : 08/01/2016 08:06
Onderwerp : Re: [Skate] Guessing European Championship 2016
I agree, but NED still has a strong team.
Post by Lars Finsen ***@ortygia.no [Speed_skating]
Post by Nils Meland ***@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
Large number of missing skaters?? Apart from Contin and Pechstein, which
skaters are you missing? Thorup, Van der Poel (about to make a
comeback), Peeters maybe. Compared to last year, Belgium and Sweden are
missing from the women's EC while Italy have come back. Among the men,
Denmark and Sweden are missing while Finland and Spain have come back. I
don't think there would be many more nations in a European single
distance championships.
Bergsma is the most significant absentee, I guess. He would have been a great addition.
hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
http://forhundrearsidaidag.blogspot.com
http://ordordordordordord.blogspot.com
Uriania pages: http://www.ortygia.no/uriania/uriania-eng.htm
Oscar Diary: http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/Oscar/odfront.shtml
http://www.ortygia.no/Skoyter/AOS/AOSfront.shtml
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Dick dickje@dickpluim.com [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 15:01:52 UTC
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My guess:

Men

500m. Bökko 36.33
1500m. Yuskov 1:45.33
5000m. Kramer 6:12.14
10000m. Kramer 13:03.23

1. Kramer
2. Yuskov
3. Pedersen
4. Swings
5. Blokhuijsen
6. Bokko
7. De Vries
8. Brodka

9. Silovs
10. Giovanninni
11. Henriksen
12. Mikhailov

Ladies

500m WÃŒst 39.12
1500m WÃŒst 1:55.55
3000m Sablikova 4:03:02
5000m Sablikova 6:56:66

1. WÃŒst (wishful thinking)
2. Sablikova
3. De Jong
4. Joling
5. Voronina
6. Graf
7. Njatun
8. Haugen

9. Lollobridgida
10. Anema
11. Czerwonka
12. Zlotkowska

Greetings, Dick
SENT: 7. januar 2016 10:27
Here is my guesses for the championship
Where can we find the list of participants?
Regards,
Robert Hovde
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bernardustukker@yahoo.com [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 16:24:10 UTC
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My guess for Minsk:

Men:
1. Kramer
2. Swings
3. Yuskov
4. Pedersen
5. Blokhuijsen
6. Bokko
7. Silovs
8. Pflug


9. Szymanski
10. Henriksen
11. Trofimov
12. De Vries


500: Yuskov 36,56
5000: Kramer 6.19,45
1500: Swings 1.45,36
10000: Kramer 13.09,56


Women:
1. Sablikova
2. Wust
3. De Jong
4. Joling
5. Voronina
6. Njatun
7. Graf
8. Kazelina


9. Czerwonka
10. Zlotkowska
11. Zueva
12. Lollobrigida


500: De Jong 39,76
3000: Sablikova 4.05,78
1500: Sablikova 1.55,90
5000: Sablikova 7.01,34


Bert Steghuis
Tim Wolfkamp tim.wolfkamp@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 19:47:25 UTC
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Men

500m. Juskov 35.95
1500m. Juskov 1.45.31
5000m. Kramer 6.11.79
10000m. Kramer 12.58.85

1. Kramer
2. Pedersen
3. Juskov
4. Swings
5. Blokhuijsen
6. Bokko
7. De Vries
8. Silovs
9. Szymanski
10. Giovannini

11. Gryaztsov
12. Mikhailov

Ladies

500m Wüst 39.32
1500m Wüst 1.55.35
3000m Sablikova 4.01.42
5000m Sablikova 6.56.71

1. Wüst
2. Sablikova
3. De Jong
4. Joling
5. Njatun
6. Voronina
7. Graf
8. Kazelina
9. Czerwonka
10. Zlotkowska
11. Lollobrigida
12. Zhueva


Have fun

Regards
Tim
Keessie heyakeessie@kpnmail.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-01-08 22:37:44 UTC
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Predictions for the last ever European Championships Allround

1 Sablikova
2 Wust
3. Joling
4. de Jong
5 Njatun
6 Voronina
7 Zlotkovska
8 Czerwonka
9 Kazelina
10 Lollobrigida
11 Zueva
12 Wozniak

500 Wust 39.39
3000 Sablikova 4.03.56
1500 Wust 1.55.76
5000 Sablikova 6.57.11

1 Kramer
2 Lunde Pedersen
3 Swings
4 Yuskov
5 de Vries
6 Blokhuizen
7 Bokko
8 Szymanski
9 Giovanini
10 Silovs
11 Gryatzov
12 Sinitzyn

500 Yuskov 36.49
5000 Kramer 6.13.97
1500 Yuskov 1.45.37
10000 Kramer 13.05.55

Heyakeessie




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Nils Meland nils.meland5@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 00:10:45 UTC
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My guesses:

Women:

1. Sáblíková
2. WÃŒst
3. Voronina
4. De Jong
5. Joling
6. Njåtun
7. Graf
8. Złotkowska

9. Czerwonka
10. Kazelina
11. Zuyeva
12. Lollobrigida

500 m Njåtun 39,61
3000 m Sáblíková 4.04,22
1500 m WÃŒst 1.56,71
5000 m Sáblíková 6.58,74

Men:

1. Kramer
2. Swings
3. Pedersen
4. Yuskov
5. Blokhuijsen
6. De Vries
7. Szymański
8. BÞkko

9. Gryaztsov
10. Giovannini
11. Henriksen
12. Silovs

500 m Yuskov 36,13
5000 m Kramer 6.17,40
1500 m Yuskov 1.45,88
10000 m Kramer 13.07,14

Nils Meland
'Gerrit Stevens' gerstenat@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 09:36:24 UTC
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My guesses

Women
1. Sablikova
2. Wust
3. A. de Jong
4. Njatun
5. Graf
6. Joling
7. Voronina
8. Zlotkovska
9. Czerwonksa
10. Zujeva
11. Kazelina
12. Lollobrigida

Wust 39,36
Sablikova 4.03,35
Wust 1.55,90
Sablikova 6.58,16

Men
1. Kramer
2. Yuskov
3. Swings
4. Pedersen
5. Bloklhuijsen
6. Brodka
7. Silovs
8. Bokko
9. D. de Vries
10. Grjavtsov
11. Szymanski
12. Giovannini

Yuskov 36,30
Kramer 6.14,33
Yuskov 1.45,37
Kramer 13.04,22

Gerrit Stevens

Is this weakest women championship ever.
What happened to Jelena Peeters.

My guesses:

MiWomen:

1. Sáblíková
2. WÃŒst
3. Voronina
4. De Jong
5. Joling
6. Njåtun
7. Graf
8. Złotkowska

9. Czerwonka
10. Kazelina
11. Zuyeva
12. Lollobrigida

500 m Njåtun 39,61
3000 m Sáblíková 4.04,22
1500 m WÃŒst 1.56,71
5000 m Sáblíková 6.58,74

Men:

1. Kramer
2. Swings
3. Pedersen
4. Yuskov
5. Blokhuijsen
6. De Vries
7. Szymański
8. BÞkko

9. Gryaztsov
10. Giovannini
11. Henriksen
12. Silovs

500 m Yuskov 36,13
5000 m Kramer 6.17,40
1500 m Yuskov 1.45,88
10000 m Kramer 13.07,14

Nils Meland
'Gerrit Stevens' gerstenat@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 11:31:57 UTC
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As Pedersen does not participate everyone from 5 to 12 will move up one spot.
Hendriksen will take 12th spot.

Gerrit Stevens

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My guesses

Women
1. Sablikova
2. Wust
3. A. de Jong
4. Njatun
5. Graf
6. Joling
7. Voronina
8. Zlotkovska
9. Czerwonksa
10. Zujeva
11. Kazelina
12. Lollobrigida

Wust 39,36
Sablikova 4.03,35
Wust 1.55,90
Sablikova 6.58,16

Men
1. Kramer
2. Yuskov
3. Swings
4. Pedersen
5. Bloklhuijsen
6. Brodka
7. Silovs
8. Bokko
9. D. de Vries
10. Grjavtsov
11. Szymanski
12. Giovannini

Yuskov 36,30
Kramer 6.14,33
Yuskov 1.45,37
Kramer 13.04,22

Gerrit Stevens

Is this weakest women championship ever.
What happened to Jelena Peeters.

My guesses:

MiWomen:

1. Sáblíková
2. WÃŒst
3. Voronina
4. De Jong
5. Joling
6. Njåtun
7. Graf
8. Złotkowska

9. Czerwonka
10. Kazelina
11. Zuyeva
12. Lollobrigida

500 m Njåtun 39,61
3000 m Sáblíková 4.04,22
1500 m WÃŒst 1.56,71
5000 m Sáblíková 6.58,74

Men:

1. Kramer
2. Swings
3. Pedersen
4. Yuskov
5. Blokhuijsen
6. De Vries
7. Szymański
8. BÞkko

9. Gryaztsov
10. Giovannini
11. Henriksen
12. Silovs

500 m Yuskov 36,13
5000 m Kramer 6.17,40
1500 m Yuskov 1.45,88
10000 m Kramer 13.07,14

Nils Meland
Nils Meland nils.meland5@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 10:26:27 UTC
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Changing the prediction for men:

1. Kramer
2. Swings
3. Yuskov
4. Blokhuijsen
5. De Vries
6. Szymański
7. BÞkko
8. Giovannini

9. Gryaztsov
10. Henriksen
11. Silovs
12. Bródka
Post by Nils Meland ***@getmail.no [Speed_skating]
1. Sáblíková
2. WÃŒst
3. Voronina
4. De Jong
5. Joling
6. Njåtun
7. Graf
8. Złotkowska
9. Czerwonka
10. Kazelina
11. Zuyeva
12. Lollobrigida
500 m Njåtun 39,61
3000 m Sáblíková 4.04,22
1500 m WÃŒst 1.56,71
5000 m Sáblíková 6.58,74
1. Kramer
2. Swings
3. Pedersen
4. Yuskov
5. Blokhuijsen
6. De Vries
7. Szymański
8. BÞkko
9. Gryaztsov
10. Giovannini
11. Henriksen
12. Silovs
500 m Yuskov 36,13
5000 m Kramer 6.17,40
1500 m Yuskov 1.45,88
10000 m Kramer 13.07,14
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'Harm van den Belt' ha.vdbelt@gmail.com [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 11:06:25 UTC
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My guesses
Woman
1. Sablikova
2. WÃŒst
3. Njatun
4. Joling
5. Graf
6. de Jong
7. Voronina
8. Czerwonka
9. Lollobrigida
10. Zlotkowska
11. Kazelina
12. Zuyeva
500 m WÃŒst 39,38
1500 m WÃŒst 1.56,28
3000 m Sablikova 4.05,18
5000 m Sabikova 6.58,48
Man
1. Pedersen
2. Kramer
3. Yuskov
4. Swings
5. Blokhuijsen
6. Silovs
7. Bokko
8. de Vries
9. Giovannini
10. Brodka
11. Henriksen
12. Szymanski
500 m Brodka 36,11
1500 m Brodka 1.46,22
5000 m Kramer 6.16,33
10000 m Kramer 13.10,44
Lets have good races and may the best win
Greetz
Harm van den Belt
'Brynjar Haarberg' brynjar.haarberg@haugnett.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 10:30:03 UTC
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Ladies:
1. Sablikova
2. WÃŒst
3. De Jong
4. Voronina
5. Graf
6. Njåtun
7. Joling
8. Zlotkowska
9. Kazelina
10. Czerwonka
11. Zujeva
12. Haugen

Njåtun 39,52
Sablikova 4.03,50
Sablikova 1.56,72
Sablikova 6.52,73


Men:
1. Kramer
2. Juskov
3. Swings
4. BÞkko
5. De Vries
6. Szymanski
7. Blokhuijsen
8. Giovannini
9. Silovs
10. Gryaztsov
11. Trofimov
12. Henriksen

Juskov 35,80
Kramer 6.11,34
Juskov 1.44,38
Kramer 12.58,71


Regards, B. Haarberg
Erick Vogelzang erick.vogelzang@gmail.com [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 10:46:37 UTC
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Women

500 m. WÃŒst 39.22
3000 m. Sáblíková 4.00.44
1500 m. WÃŒst 1.55.22
5000 m. Sáblíková 6.57.88

1. Sáblíková
2. WÃŒst
3. De Jong
4. Njåtun
5. Voronina
6. Joling
7. Graf
8. Kazelina
9. Czerwonka
10. Zlotkowska
11. Lollobrigida
12. Zhueva

Men

500 m. Juskov 36.04
5000 m. Kramer 6.12.02
1500 m. Juskov 1.45.01
10000 m. Kramer 13.01.07

1. Kramer
2. Swings
3. Juskov
4. De Vries
5. Blokhuijsen
6. BÞkko
7. Silovs
8. Szymanski
9. Bródka
10. Giovannini
11. Gryaztsov
12. Mikhailov

Heya Allround!
Groet,
Erick Vogelzang
Øyvind Erstad oe-ers@online.no [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 11:15:50 UTC
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1. Sablikova

2. WÃŒst

3. Njåtun

4. de Jong

5. Voronina

6. Joling

7. Graf

8. Czerwonka

9. Zlotkowska

10. Kazelina

11. Lollobrigida

12. Zuyeva



WÃŒst 38,90

Sablikova 4,03,60

Njåtun 1,55,90

Sablikova 6,51,30



1. Swings

2. Kramer

3. Yuskov

4. Blokhuijsen

5. de Vries

6. BÞkko

7. Szymanski

8. Silovs

9. Giovannini

10. Henriksen

11. Gryaztsov

12. Mikhailov



Yuskov 35,90

Kramer 6,14,70

Yuskov 1,45,00

Kramer 13,03,60



Best regards Øyvind Erstad.
'Harm van den Belt' ha.vdbelt@gmail.com [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 11:45:52 UTC
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While Pederson is ill my new guess

My guesses
Woman
1. Sablikova
2. WÃŒst
3. Njatun
4. Joling
5. Graf
6. de Jong
7. Voronina
8. Czerwonka
9. Lollobrigida
10. Zlotkowska
11. Kazelina
12. Zuyeva
500 m WÃŒst 39,38
1500 m WÃŒst 1.56,28
3000 m Sablikova 4.05,18
5000 m Sabikova 6.58,48
Man
1. Kramer
2. Yuskov
3. Swings
4. Blokhuijsen
5. Silovs
6. Bokko
7. de Vries
8. Giovannini
9. Brodka
10. Henriksen
11. Szymanski
12. Mikhailov
500 m Brodka 36,11
1500 m Brodka 1.46,22
5000 m Kramer 6.16,33
10000 m Kramer 13.10,44
Lets have good races and may the best win
Greetz
Harm van den Belt
Kees de Vroege CFVroege1994@kpnmail.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-01-09 12:17:01 UTC
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LP out, all others 1 place up, and Michailov at 12.

Kees


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Onderwerp: Re: [Skate] Guessing European Championship 2016

Predictions for the last ever European Championships Allround

1 Sablikova
2 Wust
3. Joling
4. de Jong
5 Njatun
6 Voronina
7 Zlotkovska
8 Czerwonka
9 Kazelina
10 Lollobrigida
11 Zueva
12 Wozniak

500 Wust 39.39
3000 Sablikova 4.03.56
1500 Wust 1.55.76
5000 Sablikova 6.57.11

1 Kramer
2 Lunde Pedersen
3 Swings
4 Yuskov
5 de Vries
6 Blokhuizen
7 Bokko
8 Szymanski
9 Giovanini
10 Silovs
11 Gryatzov
12 Sinitzyn

500 Yuskov 36.49
5000 Kramer 6.13.97
1500 Yuskov 1.45.37
10000 Kramer 13.05.55

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Arild Jensen arjense@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
2016-03-04 06:40:10 UTC
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Dear friends of speed skating
Bergen, March 4, 2016

I am leaving for Berlin today. Will I see you there?

Here is my guesses for the championship

Women
1 M. Sablikova

2 I. WÃŒst
3 A. de Jong
4 L de Vries
5 M. Takagi
6 I. Njåtun
7 N. Voronina
8 O. Graf

Not to 5K
9 E. Kazelina
10 G. Lollobrigida
11 M Oshigire.
12 C. .Pechstein

Distanse winners.
500 I WÃŒst 39,36
3000 M. Sablikova 4.02,44
1500 I. WÃŒst 1,55,46
5000 M. Sablikova 6.52,28




Men
1 S. Kramer
2 S Lunde-Pedersen
3 B, Swings
4 A. Contin
5 J Blokhuijsen
6 T.J Bloemen
7 H. BÞkko
8 A. Giovannini

Not to 10 K
9 H. Silovs
10 Konrad N.
11 D. Juskov
12 Z. Brodka


Distanse winners.

500: H. BÞkko 36.14
5000 S. Kramer 6.12.07
1500 D. Juskov 1.44,62
10000 S. Kramer 12.57.14

What is your Guess?

Arild J.
Arild Jensen arjense@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
2016-07-25 18:12:11 UTC
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I miss it
Do you miss it too?
Please write to this list and tell!
I know we have done the nomintation long time ago, but we have not voted, I want to vote now?

Arild J.
'Gerrit Stevens' gerstenat@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
2016-08-01 06:18:56 UTC
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I miss it too, but I think most of “us” are on other social media.
Also other discussions like the “banning” of the Russian Olympians,


Gerrit S

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I miss it
Do you miss it too?
Please write to this list and tell!
I know we have done the nomintation long time ago, but we have not voted, I want to vote now?

Arild J.
Arild Jensen arjense@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
2017-01-06 08:53:44 UTC
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Dear friends of speed skating
Bergen, January 6, 2016

Here is my guesses for the championship

Women
1 M. Sablikova
2 I. WÃŒst
3 A. de Jong
4 Y. Nauta
5 O. Graf
6 I. Njåtun
7 C. Pechstein
8 A. Jurakova

Not to 5K
9 N. Czerwonka
10 K. Curus
11 F. Lollobrigida
12 J. Peeters

Distanse winners.
500 I WÃŒst 39,02
3000 M. Sablikova 4.01,28
1500 I. WÃŒst 1,55,23
5000 M. Sablikova 6.54,32

Men
1 S. Kramer
2 S Lunde-Pedersen
3 B. Swings
4 J. Blokhuijsen
5 D. de Vries
6 A. Giovannini
7 J. Szymanski
8 S. Henriksen

Not to 10 K
9 D Juskov (I think he will withdraw from 10 K like he did in 2016...)
10 D. Sinitsyn
11 S. S. Nilsen
12 N. Tumolero

Distanse winners.

500: D. Juskov 35.89
5000 S. Kramer 6.14,87
1500 D. Juskov 1.44,97
10000 S. Kramer 12.51.76


Arild J.
Arild Jensen arjense@broadpark.no [Speed_skating]
2017-03-03 18:34:56 UTC
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Dear friends of speed skating
Bergen, March, 3 2016

Here is my guesses for the championship

Women
1 I. WÃŒst
2 M Sablikova
3 A. de Jong
4 O. Graf
5 M. Takagi
6 M Joling
7 I Blodin
8 N. Czerwonka

Not to 5K
9 B. Kraus
10 I Njåtun
11 A. Sato
12 F. Lollobrigida



Distanse winners.
500 I WÃŒst 39,02
3000 I WÃŒst 4.01,28
1500 I. WÃŒst 1,55,23
5000 M. Sablikova 6.54,32

Men
1 S. Kramer
2 J. Blokhuijsen
3 S Lunde-Pedersen
4 B. Swings
5 P. Roest
6 A. Giovannini
7 P. Beckert
8 S. Henriksen

Not to 10 K
9 Konrad N.
10 N. Tumolero
11 J. Szymanski
12 S. Grytsjov

Distanse winners.

500: S. Henriksen 35.89
5000 S. Kramer 6.09,87
1500 S. Kramer 1.44,97
10000 S. Kramer 12.56.76




I miss Michael and Bloemen at Hamar...

But I will be there, most probably in the corner...



Arild J.

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