[Skate] Standings after day 6

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Are there more recent standings?



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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Post by ***@hetnet.nl [Speed_skating]
Are there more recent standings?

Unfortunately I was lying on a table with some busy folks around me when the 10000 m took place. It was a wonderful event which I’d like to watch some time. I came back home again today and I’m feeling very good indeed. Sun in the house for the first time, snowdrops around the walls, a pretty new moon setting in the sea west of my house, and Lorentzen! Here are the standings after day 7. I will come back with the others when I’ve dealt with some backlog of work.

Harm and Arne Johan are the only ones besides Øyvind who has the right winner, and they both even have the right silver medallist. Harm has the better time prediction, so he wins the gold here, while Arne Johan takes the silver. Brynjar and Jos, who both predicted one of the medallists correctly and the other in the wrong position, share the bronze.

GOLD.Harm van den Belt.NED 15
Silver.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 14
bronze.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 10
bronze.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 10
5.Carool van Kesteren.NED 9
BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 9
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 9
Sybe van Hijum.NED 9
9.Bert Steghuis.NED 8
Nils Meland.NOR 8
11.Lars Finsen.NOR 7
Brigt BÞ.NOR 7
Ivar Hansen.NOR 7
Dick Pluim.NED 7
15.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 6
16.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 4

Brynjar keeps his lead and Tim’s slip means that it’s a little more secure:

1.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 72 (as before)
2.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 67 (as before)
Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 67 (up from 3rd)
4.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 61 (as before)
5.BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 60 (as before)
Sybe van Hijum.NED 60 (as before)
7.Carool van Kesteren.NED 57 (up from 7th)
8.Harm van den Belt. NED 56 (up from 13th)
9.Brigt BÞ.NOR 55 (down from 7th)
Dick Pluim.NED 55 (down from 7th)
11.Øyvind Erstad.NOR 54 (down from 10th)
12.Bert Steghuis.NED 51 (down from 10th)
13.Lars Finsen.NOR 49 (down from 12th)
Nils Meland.NOR 49 (down from 12th)
15.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 45 (down from 12th)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 37 (as before)

Medal table:

Brynjar Haarberg 3-1-1
Jos Kloppenborg 2-1-1
Tim Wolfkamp 2-1-0
Brigt BÞ 2-0-0
Arne Johan Isaksen 1-2-0
Harm van den Belt 1-1-0
Sybe van Hijum 1-0-1
Øyvind Erstad 1-0-0
Nils Meland 1-0-0
me 0-1-0
Bert Steghuis 0-1-0
Carool van Kesteren 0-0-1

Good luck with the further competitions!

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

The last one was day 8, not day 7, which I proclaimed mistakenly in the not yet published header.

Nils Meland has been a shadow of his former self this far in the competitions, but this time he joined Tim in predicting both the right winner and a medal for Cha (though not the right one). A good time prediction puts them in a tie for gold. Of the other 14, surprisingly only 5 had predicted the World Cup leader to win. Of these, Knut Egil was the only one who made an excellent time prediction, so he wins the bronze. Sybe van Hijum gets 1 bonus point for predicting the correct time, the only correct time prediction so far these games. Surely guys, we can do better than this?

GOLD.Nils Meland.NOR 13
GOLD.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 13
bronze.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 11
4.Lars Finsen.NOR 10
Brigt BÞ.NOR 10
Harm van den Belt.NED 10
7.Dick Pluim.NED 9
8.Sybe van Hijum.NED 7
9.Carool van Kesteren.NED 6
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 6
11.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 5
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 5
Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 5
14.BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 4
15.Bert Steghuis.NED 2
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 1

With a prediction evidently calculated less carefully than his others, Brynjar loses his lead to Tim, the Kramer of predicting. Myself I’m climbing for the second 500 m in a row. Maybe I have become a sprinter?

1.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 105 (up from 2nd)
2.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 101 (down from 1st)
3.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 95 (as before)
Brigt BÞ.NOR 95 (up from 5th)
5.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 91 (down from 4th)
6.Sybe van Hijum.NED 90 (up from 7th)
Harm van den Belt. NED 90 (up from 8th)
8.BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 88 (down from 6th)
9.Dick Pluim.NED 84 (up from 12th)
Lars Finsen.NOR 84 (up from 13th)
11.Carool van Kesteren.NED 83 (down from 10th)
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 83 (down from 10th)
Nils Meland.NOR 83 (up from 14th)
14.Bert Steghuis.NED 81 (down from 9th)
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 81 (up from 15th)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 56 (as before)

Medal table:

Brynjar Haarberg 3-2-1
Tim Wolfkamp 4-1-0
Brigt BÞ 2-2-0
Jos Kloppenborg 2-1-1
Nils Meland 2-0-0
Arne Johan Isaksen 1-2-0
Harm van den Belt 1-1-0
me 1-1-0
Sybe van Hijum 1-0-1
Øyvind Erstad 1-0-0
Bert Steghuis 0-2-1
Knut Egil Gundersen 0-1-1
BjÞrn Hagen 0-1-0
Carool van Kesteren 0-0-1

Good luck tomorrow!

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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Tim made up for his 10k blooper by having the right winner as the only one, and he also had the right silver medallist, winning the female 5000 m gold pretty convincingly. Brigt had one correct and one incorrect medal position and a good time prediction, winning silver, and Brynjar, Bert, BjÞrn and Knut Egil share the bronze with various combinations.

GOLD.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 15
Silver.Brigt BÞ.NOR 10
bronze.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 9
bronze.Bert Steghuis.NED 9
bronze.BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 9
bronze.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 9
7.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 8
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 8
Harm van den Belt.NED 8
Sybe van Hijum.NED 8
11.Nils Meland.NOR 6
12.Carool van Kesteren.NED 5
13.Lars Finsen.NOR 4
Ivar Hansen.NOR 4
Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 4
Dick Pluim.NED 4

Brynjar keeps his overall lead, but Tim is suddenly contending again:

1.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 81 (as before)
2.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 76 (up from 4th)
3.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 75 (down from 2nd)
4.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 71 (down from 2nd)
5.BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 69 (as before)
6.Sybe van Hijum.NED 68 (down from 5th)
7.Brigt BÞ.NOR 65 (up from 9th)
8.Harm van den Belt. NED 64 (as before)
9.Carool van Kesteren.NED 62 (down from 7th)
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 62 (up from 11th)
11.Bert Steghuis.NED 60 (up from 12th)
12.Dick Pluim.NED 59 (down from 9th)
13.Nils Meland.NOR 55 (as before)
14.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 54 (up from 15th)
15.Lars Finsen.NOR 53 (down from 13th)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 41 (as before)

Medal table:

Brynjar Haarberg 3-2-1
Tim Wolfkamp 3-1-0
Jos Kloppenborg 2-1-1
Brigt BÞ 2-1-0
Arne Johan Isaksen 1-2-0
Harm van den Belt 1-1-0
Sybe van Hijum 1-0-1
Øyvind Erstad 1-0-0
Nils Meland 1-0-0
Bert Steghuis 0-2-0
me 0-1-0
BjÞrn Hagen 0-1-0
Knut Egil Gundersen 0-1-0
Carool van Kesteren 0-0-1

Good luck with the rest of the competition.

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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

We were in full agreement that Japan would win the female team pursuit, and since almost all of us also agreed that the Dutch would take the silver, not much difference was made up in this event. Brynjar, Knut Egil and Sybe had excellent time predictions and share the gold.

GOLD.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 16
GOLD.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 16
GOLD.Sybe van Hijum.NED 16
4.Carool van Kesteren.NED 15
BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 15
Harm van den Belt.NED 15
Nils Meland.NOR 15
Tim Wolfkamp.NED 15
9.Lars Finsen.NOR 14
Brigt BÞ.NOR 14
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 14
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 14
Dick Pluim.NED 14
14.Bert Steghuis.NED 13
Ivar Hansen.NOR 13
16.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 11

Brynjar picks up one point from Tim, but still some to catch up.

1.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 120 (as before)
2.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 117 (as before)
3.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 109 (as before)
Brigt BÞ.NOR 109 (as before)
5.Sybe van Hijum.NED 106 (up from 6th)
6.Harm van den Belt. NED 105 (as before)
7.BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 103 (up from 8th)
8.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 102 (down from 5th)
9.Dick Pluim.NED 98 (as before)
Lars Finsen.NOR 98 (as before)
Carool van Kesteren.NED 98 (up from 11th)
Nils Meland.NOR 98 (up from 11th)
13.Øyvind Erstad.NOR 97 (down from 11th)
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 97 (up from 14th)
15.Bert Steghuis.NED 94 (down from 14th)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 69 (as before)

Medal table:

Brynjar Haarberg 4-2-1
Tim Wolfkamp 4-1-0
Brigt BÞ 2-2-0
Jos Kloppenborg 2-1-1
Sybe van Hijum 2-0-1
Nils Meland 2-0-0
Arne Johan Isaksen 1-2-0
Knut Egil Gundersen 1-1-1
Harm van den Belt 1-1-0
me 1-1-0
Øyvind Erstad 1-0-0
Bert Steghuis 0-2-1
BjÞrn Hagen 0-1-0
Carool van Kesteren 0-0-1

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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Three participants had the podium entirely correct in the female 500 m. I had an excellent time prediction and win the distance, while Brigt had a good prediction, winning silver, and Bert had a fair prediction, winning the bronze. All the others had the first 2 correct, so there wasn’t so much ground to gain here.

GOLD.Lars Finsen.NOR 21
Silver.Brigt BÞ.NOR 20
bronze.Bert Steghuis.NED 19
4.Harm van den Belt.NED 16
Tim Wolfkamp.NED 16
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 16
Dick Pluim.NED 16
8. Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 15
Carool van Kesteren.NED 15
BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 15
Jos Kloppenborg.NED 15
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 15
Nils Meland.NOR 15
Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 15
Sybe van Hijum.NED 15
16. Ivar Hansen.NOR 14

Brynjar’s lead diminishes a little, as the two seasoned predictors are on his heels:

1.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 96 (as before)
2.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 92 (as before)
3.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 90 (as before)
4.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 86 (as before)
5.Brigt BÞ.NOR 85 (up from 7th)
6.BjÞrn Hagen.NOR 84 (down from 5th)
7.Sybe van Hijum.NED 83 (down from 6th)
8.Harm van den Belt. NED 80 (as before)
9.Bert Steghuis.NED 79 (up from 11th)
10.Carool van Kesteren.NED 77 (down from 9th)
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 77 (down from 9th)
12.Dick Pluim.NED 75 (as before)
13.Lars Finsen.NOR 74 (up from 15th)
14.Nils Meland.NOR 70 (down from 13th)
15.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 70 (down from 13th)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 55 (as before)

Medal table:

Brynjar Haarberg 3-2-1
Tim Wolfkamp 3-1-0
Brigt BÞ 2-2-0
Jos Kloppenborg 2-1-1
Arne Johan Isaksen 1-2-0
Harm van den Belt 1-1-0
Sybe van Hijum 1-0-1
Øyvind Erstad 1-0-0
Nils Meland 1-0-0
Bert Steghuis 0-2-1
me 1-1-0
BjÞrn Hagen 0-1-0
Knut Egil Gundersen 0-1-0
Carool van Kesteren 0-0-1

Only Dick and Ivar without medals yet. Good luck for the rest of the competition!

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[Kees [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

I think the Norwegian board is partying now

Greets Keessie

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Are there more recent standings?
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Post by Kees ***@kpnmail.nl [Speed_skating]
I think the Norwegian board is partying now

I have sent several updates that don’t seem to have arrived yet. Can you check the list inbox?

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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Surprisingly, Arne Johan and I were the only ones who had the correct winner in the men’s team pursuit, and we win it together with Knut Egil, who named all the medal winners, but only one of them in the correct position.

GOLD.Lars Finsen.NOR 13
GOLD.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 13
GOLD.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 13
4.Øyvind Erstad.NOR 11
Tim Wolfkamp.NED 11
6.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 10
7.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 8
Bjørn Hagen.NOR 8
Nils Meland.NOR 8
Dick Pluim.NED 8
11.Bert Steghuis.NED 7
Brigt Bø.NOR 7
Harm van den Belt.NED 7
Sybe van Hijum.NED 7
15.Carool van Kesteren.NED 5
Ivar Hansen.NOR 5

Tim, the Kramer of prediction, pulls away.

1.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 116 (as before)
2.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 109 (as before)
3.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 105 (as before)
4.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 104 (up from 5th)
5.Brigt Bø.NOR 102 (down from 3rd)
6.Sybe van Hijum.NED 97 (as before)
Harm van den Belt. NED 97 (as before)
Lars Finsen.NOR 97 (up from 9th)
9.Bjørn Hagen.NOR 96 (down from 8th)
10.Øyvind Erstad.NOR 94 (up from 11th)
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 94 (up from 14th)
12.Dick Pluim.NED 92 (down from 9th)
13.Nils Meland.NOR 91 (down from 11th)
14.Carool van Kesteren.NED 88 (down from 11th)
15.Bert Steghuis.NED 88 (down from 14th)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 61 (as before)

Medal table

Brynjar Haarberg 4-2-1
Tim Wolfkamp 4-1-0
Brigt Bø 2-2-0
Arne Johan Isaksen 2-2-0
Jos Kloppenborg 2-1-1
Knut Egil Gundersen 2-1-1
Sybe van Hijum 2-0-1
me 2-1-0
Nils Meland 2-0-0
Harm van den Belt 1-1-0
Øyvind Erstad 1-0-0
Bert Steghuis 0-2-1
Bjørn Hagen 0-1-0
Carool van Kesteren 0-0-1

Good luck on Friday!

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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Hi,
A corrected total points list:

1.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 131 (as before)
2.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 125 (as before)
3.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 119 (as before)
4.Brigt Bø.NOR 116 (down from 3rd)
5.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 115 (up from 8th)
6.Sybe van Hijum.NED 113 (down from 5th)
7.Harm van den Belt. NED 112 (down from 6th)
8.Bjørn Hagen.NOR 111 (down from 7th)
Lars Finsen.NOR 111 (up from 9th)
10.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 110 (up from 13th)
11.Øyvind Erstad.NOR 108 (up from 13th)
12.Dick Pluim.NED 106 (down from 9th)
Nils Meland.NOR 106 (down from 9th)
14.Carool van Kesteren.NED 103 (down from 9th)
15.Bert Steghuis.NED 101 (as before)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 74 (as before)

Unless Brynjar does something spectacular in the 1000 m, the race is over for him, because he hasn’t predicted the mass starts. But anyhow, good luck to everyone on Friday, skaters as well as predictors.

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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

The overall leader Tim pulled the trick of predicting both the silver and bronze medallists correctly in the female mass start, and thus wins the event. Jos and Arne Johan both correctly picked Kim for the silver and shares the prediction event silver.

GOLD.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 10
Silver.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 5
Silver.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 5
4.Carool van Kesteren.NED 3
Lars Finsen.NOR 3
Brigt Bø.NOR 3
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 3
Harm van den Belt.NED 3
Nils Meland.NOR 3
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 3
Sybe van Hijum.NED 3
12.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 0
Bert Steghuis.NED 0
Bjørn Hagen.NOR 0
Ivar Hansen.NOR 0
Dick Pluim.NED 0

This means that Tim is already the winner of the 2018 Ortygia Olympic Prediction Championship as he’s 19 points ahead of the next one who does have a prediction in an event where the maximum score is 18 points. Congratulations! You can write the winner’s speech when you have watched the men’s event.

1.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 155 (as before)
2.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 138 (as before)
3.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 136 (as before)
4.Brigt Bø.NOR 134 (down from 3rd)
5.Lars Finsen.NOR 131 (as before)
6.Harm van den Belt. NED 127 (up from 7th)
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 127 (up from 7th)
Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 127 (up from 9th)
9.Bjørn Hagen.NOR 126 (down from 6th)
10.Nils Meland.NOR 124 (as before)
11.Sybe van Hijum.NED 123 (as before)
12.Dick Pluim.NED 119 (as before)
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 119 (up from 13th)
Carool van Kesteren.NED 119 (up from 13th)
15.Bert Steghuis.NED 111 (as before)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 75 (as before)

Medal table:

Tim Wolfkamp 5-1-0
Brynjar Haarberg 4-2-1
me 3-1-0
Brigt Bø 2-3-0
Arne Johan Isaksen 2-3-0
Jos Kloppenborg 2-2-1
Knut Egil Gundersen 2-1-1
Sybe van Hijum 2-0-1
Nils Meland 2-1-0
Harm van den Belt 1-1-0
Øyvind Erstad 1-0-0
Bert Steghuis 0-2-1
Bjørn Hagen 0-2-0
Carool van Kesteren 0-0-1

Good luck in the men’s mass start, the last of the Games!

Sincerely,
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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Bjørn and Øyvind predicted the correct winner and another medal winner correctly, though different ones, so they share the win in the men’s mass start event, the last of the Games and this game. Jos and Dick had the winner and another medal winner mentioned, though not in the correct place, thus they share the bronze. Carool was the only one who mentioned all the medal winners, but they were all in the wrong place.

GOLD.Bjørn Hagen.NOR 13
GOLD.Øyvind Erstad.NOR 13
bronze.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 11
bronze.Dick Pluim.NED 11
5.Carool van Kesteren.NED 9
6.Lars Finsen.NOR 8
Brigt Bø.NOR 8
Nils Meland.NOR 8
Tim Wolfkamp.NED 8
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 8
11.Bert Steghuis.NED 6
Sybe van Hijum.NED 6
13.Harm van den Belt.NED 3
Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 3
15.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 0
Ivar Hansen.NOR 0

Final standings are as follows, awaiting yet another winning speech from Tim. And I’d like to hear from all the other medallists as well!

G O L D.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 163 (as before)
S i l v e r.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 147 (up from 3rd)
b r o n z e.Brigt Bø.NOR 142 (up from 4th)
4.Lars Finsen.NOR 139 (up from 5th)
Bjørn Hagen.NOR 139 (up from 9th)
6.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 138 (down from 2nd)
7.Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 135 (down from 6th)
8.Nils Meland.NOR 132 (up from 10th)
Øyvind Erstad.NOR 132 (up from 12th)
10.Harm van den Belt. NED 130 (down from 6th)
Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 130 (down from 6th)
Dick Pluim.NED 130 (up from 12th)
13.Sybe van Hijum.NED 129 (down from 11)
14.Carool van Kesteren.NED 128 (down from 12th)
15.Bert Steghuis.NED 117 (as before)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 75 (as before)

Final medal table:

Tim Wolfkamp 5-1-0
Brynjar Haarberg 4-2-1
me 3-1-0
Brigt Bø 2-3-0
Arne Johan Isaksen 2-3-0
Jos Kloppenborg 2-2-2
Knut Egil Gundersen 2-1-1
Nils Meland 2-1-0
Sybe van Hijum 2-0-1
Øyvind Erstad 2-0-0
Bjørn Hagen 1-2-0
Harm van den Belt 1-1-0
Bert Steghuis 0-2-1
Carool van Kesteren 0-0-1
Dick Pluim.NED 0-0-1

Thanks a lot for all your contributions and for all the fun! Congratulations to all the winners, medallists and all who feel that they have done well! And if you don’t feel that you have, there’s still time to prepare for when we meet again, at Amsterdam!

LEF

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[Tim Wolfkamp [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Hi all,

I will start thanking Lars as usual, for his organization, his efforts and very enthusiastic build up of the results!

Too bad for our Norwegian friends, the titles remain in Holland, at lest for this year, although Pedersen,
in the Olympics 1500m and even more in the Worlds, remains the real guy to fill pity about.
But the good thing is that for the coming years the Dutch have to fight hard for titles.

I was working abroad, otherwise I would for sure have been in Amsterdam,
but luckily I still got almost full coverage.

The races were incredible and full of surprises.
If anyone would have guessed Kramer not be on the podium and van der Poel winning the 10k,
he would have surely been sent directly into the asylum!
That van der Poel would reach the last eight I guessed somehow already after the 500. His 10k finish with the Semernikov ws a great battle.
Too bad NOS missed the winning race, but good that later we could watch the race anyway.
Somehow we all expected more from Nilsen. He made the 500m podium earlier and improved on the longer distance this year.
Ireen did a incredible 3k, but even with 'normal' 500m it would have been extremely difficult to have beaten Takagi
During the weekend, I also hoped for Lollo to be on the podium!, but seeing Anouk made it in her final race was a fine alternative.
I did not reckon with the victory in the worlds, but my predicted times were most of the time pretty ok.

I am not sure yet if I will announce my retirement, but for now enjoy the summer and see you probably all next year!

Kind regards

Tim

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Pitty, that the weather for coming weekend is one week too late!



Met vriendelijke groet



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Hi all,

I will start thanking Lars as usual, for his organization, his efforts and very enthusiastic build up of the results!

Too bad for our Norwegian friends, the titles remain in Holland, at lest for this year, although Pedersen,
in the Olympics 1500m and even more in the Worlds, remains the real guy to fill pity about.
But the good thing is that for the coming years the Dutch have to fight hard for titles.

I was working abroad, otherwise I would for sure have been in Amsterdam,
but luckily I still got almost full coverage.

The races were incredible and full of surprises.
If anyone would have guessed Kramer not be on the podium and van der Poel winning the 10k,
he would have surely been sent directly into the asylum!
That van der Poel would reach the last eight I guessed somehow already after the 500. His 10k finish with the Semernikov ws a great battle.
Too bad NOS missed the winning race, but good that later we could watch the race anyway.
Somehow we all expected more from Nilsen. He made the 500m podium earlier and improved on the longer distance this year.
Ireen did a incredible 3k, but even with 'normal' 500m it would have been extremely difficult to have beaten Takagi
During the weekend, I also hoped for Lollo to be on the podium!, but seeing Anouk made it in her final race was a fine alternative.
I did not reckon with the victory in the worlds, but my predicted times were most of the time pretty ok.

I am not sure yet if I will announce my retirement, but for now enjoy the summer and see you probably all next year!

Kind regards

Tim





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[Lars Finsen [e-mail] [Speed_skating]]

Well, six of us had the two first places on the podium right. And I had the pleasure of predicting the correct winning time and with one bonus point I win the gold here where Lorentzen did not. Bjørn, Brigt and Nils had good time predictions as well and share the silver.

GOLD.Lars Finsen.NOR 17
Silver.Bjørn Hagen.NOR 15
Silver.Brigt Bø.NOR 15
Silver.Nils Meland.NOR 15
5.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 14
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 14
7.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 13
Carool van Kesteren.NED 13
Dick Pluim.NED 13
10.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 12
Harm van den Belt.NED 12
12.Bert Steghuis.NED 10
13.Øyvind Erstad.NOR 8
14.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 7
Sybe van Hijum.NED 7
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 1

Tim has a solid lead and since Brynjar in 2nd place hasn’t predicted the mass starts, and since the mass starts are hard to predict and thus will yield few points, Tim is almost ready for yet another win.

1.Tim Wolfkamp.NED 145 (as before)
2.Brynjar Haarberg.NOR 138 (as before)
3.Jos Kloppenborg.NED 131 (as before)
Brigt Bø.NOR 131 (up from 4th)
5.Lars Finsen.NOR 128 (up from 8th)
6.Bjørn Hagen.NOR 126 (up from 8th)
7.Harm van den Belt. NED 124 (as before)
Knut Egil Gundersen.NOR 124 (up from 10th)
9.Arne Johan Isaksen.NOR 122 (down from 5th)
10.Nils Meland.NOR 121 (up from 12th)
11.Sybe van Hijum.NED 120 (down from 6th)
12.Dick Pluim.NED 119 (as before)
13.Øyvind Erstad.NOR 116 (down from 11th)
Carool van Kesteren.NED 116 (up from 14th)
15.Bert Steghuis.NED 111 (as before)
16.Ivar Hansen.NOR 75 (as before)

Tim has blundered a little with his MS predictions, predicting Lee for the men, but then Blondin and N. Takagi, who are not men. For the women he has predicted Lollobrigida-Kim-Schouten. Jos has predicted Lee-Verweij-Pedersen and Lollobrigida-Kim-Blondin, which doesn’t look significantly better, I think. Brigt has predicted Lee-Kramer-Michael and Schouten-Kim-Bergsma. I have predicted Lee-Mantia-Silovs and Kim-Lollobrigida-Rigas. Bjørn has predicted Lee-Mantia-Verweij and Blondin-Lollobrigida-Bettrone. Let’s see who has the smartest guesses here, but I think Tim is pretty safe despite his blunder.

Medal table:

Brynjar Haarberg 4-2-1
Tim Wolfkamp 4-1-0
me 3-1-0
Brigt Bø 2-3-0
Arne Johan Isaksen 2-2-0
Jos Kloppenborg 2-1-1
Knut Egil Gundersen 2-1-1
Sybe van Hijum 2-0-1
Nils Meland 2-1-0
Harm van den Belt 1-1-0
Øyvind Erstad 1-0-0
Bert Steghuis 0-2-1
Bjørn Hagen 0-2-0
Carool van Kesteren 0-0-1

Good luck on Sunday!

hilsen Lars Finsen / www.ortygia.no
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Remember tim for the most feared goodbye ;-)

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
Hi all,

I will start thanking Lars as usual, for his organization, his efforts and

very enthusiastic build up of the results!

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
Too bad for our Norwegian friends, the titles remain in Holland, at lest

for this year, although Pedersen,

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
in the Olympics 1500m and even more in the Worlds, remains the real guy to

fill pity about.

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
But the good thing is that for the coming years the Dutch have to fight

hard for titles.

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
I was working abroad, otherwise I would for sure have been in Amsterdam,
but luckily I still got almost full coverage.
The races were incredible and full of surprises.
If anyone would have guessed Kramer not be on the podium and van der Poel

winning the 10k,

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
he would have surely been sent directly into the asylum!
That van der Poel would reach the last eight I guessed somehow already

after the 500. His 10k finish with the Semernikov ws a great battle.

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
Too bad NOS missed the winning race, but good that later we could watch

the race anyway.

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
Somehow we all expected more from Nilsen. He made the 500m podium earlier

and improved on the longer distance this year.

Post by Tim Wolfkamp ***@ziggo.nl [Speed_skating]
Ireen did a incredible 3k, but even with 'normal' 500m it would have been

extremely difficult to have



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